Fisher NTEA 2009

[Jerre Heyer]

Ok so now for some of the Fisher picts. Fisher did have a larger version of there poly hopper on display. Guys didn't get any good picts of it thought sorry.

[Jerre Heyer]

New light weight chainless Fisher

[Jerre Heyer]

Another picture

[atgreene]

In my best Fantasy Island Tattoo voice "But boss, ze chain ze chain!?"

[JD PLOWER]

So since this is a lighweight plow does that mean its a down pressure piston? Was this display functioning?

[Crash935]

I could tell in the second pic that it was a dual action cylinder so maybe?

[The boys]

It had a back drag function on it that we read about in the flyer, but apparently fisher nor western either one were to interested in selling plows this year because they wouldnt talk to me the five or six times I was at there booths. But they had plenty of time to sdit around a bull **** with each other. They were also hiding the controllers for those plows in side the trucks under the seat so we couldnt even telll how that worked.

[Jerre Heyer]

It has FLOAT lock. Modeled after the Suburbanite and The Homesteader plows and using there hydraulic system per se. Full Down pressure is just a matter of a couple of wires

[John Banks]

Originally Posted by The boys

It had a back drag function on it that we read about in the flyer, but apparently fisher nor western either one were to interested in selling plows this year because they wouldnt talk to me the five or six times I was at there booths. But they had plenty of time to sdit around a bull **** with each other. They were also hiding the controllers for those plows in side the trucks under the seat so we couldnt even telll how that worked.

Perhaps you guys should consult with our in-house DHS expert Sir Beering - perhaps you guys made your way onto to someone's watch list - as in DON'T watch what our products can do.

This seems consistent in those circles that you run LOL

[BWhite]

Any changes for the HD , X blades ,XLS ?

[lilweeds]

What happens is you loose the hydraulics? It can't be short chained!

[hlntoiz]

Originally Posted by 2lilweeds;

What happens is you loose the hydraulics? It can't be short chained!

Home owners usually dont' leave their own driveway other than to get coffee so this shouldn't be an issue.

Originally Posted by BWhite

Any changes for the HD , X blades ,XLS ?

Aprearantly home owners and weekend warriors have all the money and should be the target market.

[GMC Driver]

Originally Posted by 2lilweeds

What happens is you loose the hydraulics? It can't be short chained!

LMAO - that's funny!!





Does it come with an extra pin?

[Chuck Smith]

Originally Posted by Jerre Heyer

It has FLOAT lock. Modeled after the Suburbanite and The Homesteader plows and using there hydraulic system per se. Full Down pressure is just a matter of a couple of wires

I had a Homesteader in here. Asked the owner how that float lock works. He had no clue, and has had the plow for 5 years. Just had the standard Western/Fisher dash mounted joystick controller. I know off the truck you could easily move the headgear back and forth A LOT. I didn't know the plow was supposed to have the lock feature, and thought it was a cool idea, as close as you can get to downpressure anyway. I saw it in the brochure he had from when he bought the plow. I'll tell you one thing, it is VERY fast.

You guys keep blaming the plow manufacturers for making lighter plows when it is the vehicle manufacturers that keep lowering the front axle weight ratings. Take a 2007 F-150 for example. To mount a Meyer on it (a plow I am sure most consider "light") the truck must have an 8200# GVWR. For a loooooong period of time, 8200 GVWR would be a 3/4 ton, with HD emissions! Not anymore.

I know this is the Fisher forum, and I don't mean anything by using Meyer as an example other than to illustrate my point on front axle ratings.

~Chuck

[JD PLOWER]

I do agree Chuck that it is the truck companies that are making the weight ratings of the vehicles smaller or more difficult to deal with but it wasn’t always that big of a deal to have the weight rating match the plow. When I started plowing you or I could go into most Fisher dealers and he would install a 9’ plow on your F-350 srw with a 4200lb FAWR and nobody seemed to care whether it was a gas or a diesel engine and what kind of ballast you used or if you used any at all. Once trucks got popular and people realized they weren’t cars and didn’t act like cars when you drove them or were hit by them, then most things changed. If you compare an 80’s one ton truck and plow setup to today’s they look like vehicles from another planet. All in all it means companies need to spend more and more on engineering to make this work and it is driving up the cost of the plows to what is pretty ridiculous IMHO. Personally I can't blame either the plow companies or the truck companies, I blame the lawyers.

[The boys]

Originally Posted by John Banks

Perhaps you guys should consult with our in-house DHS expert Sir Beering - perhaps you guys made your way onto to someone's watch list - as in DON'T watch what our products can do.

This seems consistent in those circles that you run LOL

The problem is I went incogneto so they didnt even know who I was. I even sent all the info to my house.

[Pickering Snow]

I agree if you look at the evolution of the plows and trucks, both have had legal loop holes to jump threw, i belive both Chuck and JD have it right.

The sad part and again not so much the fault of the plow companys however the same snow we pushed 18yrs ago hasnt gotton lighter or easyer to push which does put these lighter units into situation that we have to try and assume wont Tax either end out meaning Truck or Plow.

When me and Jerre were doing alot of the testing on snow loads a company up here Quatum Composites did a snow test on the wings of a 810 the presuure alone blew me away, so i guess for me knowing these pressure numbers and also knowing the plow skins are lighter to allow use on light pickups it makes one wonder about the future of our industry.

[Pelican]

Originally Posted by JD PLOWER

When I started plowing...

...there weren't personal injury attorneys on every street corner....looking to make a fast buck

[JD PLOWER]

Originally Posted by JD PLOWER

I do agree Chuck that it is the truck companies that are making the weight ratings of the vehicles smaller or more difficult to deal with but it wasn’t always that big of a deal to have the weight rating match the plow. When I started plowing you or I could go into most Fisher dealers and he would install a 9’ plow on your F-350 srw with a 4200lb FAWR and nobody seemed to care whether it was a gas or a diesel engine and what kind of ballast you used or if you used any at all. Once trucks got popular and people realized they weren’t cars and didn’t act like cars when you drove them or were hit by them, then most things changed. If you compare an 80’s one ton truck and plow setup to today’s they look like vehicles from another planet. All in all it means companies need to spend more and more on engineering to make this work and it is driving up the cost of the plows to what is pretty ridiculous IMHO. Personally I can't blame either the plow companies or the truck companies, I blame the lawyers.

[BWhite]

Looks like
1. Fisher only brought a new lightweight plow to the show
1. the HD, XBlade , XLS have zero changes for the upcoming season .
2. The fisher reps would not speak with show attendees

[Jerre Heyer]

They brought a selection of plows to the show. There were no significant changes seen in the other plows hence no picts. They did bring a new larger poly spreader but no one that we talked to got any good picts of the unit.

As far as the reps talking to people there were people in and out of the booths all three days and they were active but certainly were not going out of there way to talk to people as we saw many times people milling around the booths with no reps checking in on them.

The same thing was going on in the Western booth. The Blizzard guys were all over anyone even walking by the booth to show off there new plows.

[Big Dog D]

Originally Posted by Jerre Heyer

As far as the reps talking to people there were people in and out of the booths all three days and they were active but certainly were not going out of there way to talk to people

Mainers are and can be a pretty shy bunch...............just look at ATGREENE.

[atgreene]

I resemble that remark.


On edit: We just don't like to associate with flatlanders.

[OSCLandscaping]

Originally Posted by atgreene

We just don't like to associate with flatlanders

[Stik208]

Seems pretty decent for the people like me who would want a beefier version of the homesteader. I also find the painted triangle a little humorous. It appears to have the MM2 style also the fisher trip edge which I know alot of people are partial to. I doubt it would be made for the Ranger though.