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4evergreenlawns

12-06-2003, 08:50 AM

They should include it so it is easy to get to the repair guy. There claim on easy out for use of the bed, how are you going yo use the bed with those rails bolted to it?

The one I had last year, keep it real clean, paid for indoor storage all summer. Controler went bad took six weeks for them to send the wrong one and than fight for one more week saying they new replaced it at all and had not claim form for on it. Than plug it in and the auger motor was seized. How does that happen with a sealed unit and one one season of use.They gave me a fight over the claim stating I did not have valid proof of purchase because the sales slip dealer gave me said Quote on the top, and stamped invoice paid. Than stated they revamped their claim procedures due to so many calims being filed. I keep hearing, "WARNING WILL ROBINSON, WARNING"

These units are not for the commercail operator that needs something to be depandable. It is nothing more than an oversized tailgate spreader Sno-way ploy plow comes to mind. This is a great unit for a guy with lager area that he would like to service on his own or maybe a inhouse maintanence program where you need to be able to multi task limited equipment like a small college or stip mall. But NO WAY is this a commercial grade product based on my experience.

Alan

12-06-2003, 12:59 PM

4ever,

Why were you having to deal directly with Trynex for our warranty claims? Seems like the dealer should have been getting warrranty items resolved. The dealer handled my warranty stuff on a 1075 with no real hassles.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say about Sno-Way. They don't make "ploy" plows, they don't make poly plows either. What they DO make is a pretty decent, lightweight plow that uses a Lexan skin for the moldboard.

Have you had "issues" with Sno-Way also? Again, our dealer has taken care of us on warranty claims with no hassle to us.

Snowing here now and I'm about to go out and fire up one of the rigs. I'll probably be taking the one with a "ploy" plow and a Trynex spreader and I'm pretty confident both will perform just fine.

4evergreenlawns

12-06-2003, 06:45 PM

Hi Alan,

Well I am sure a man of your years and knowledge would easily see the "ploy" was ment to be "poly". I am sorry that I missed the error. Although, I do think I have seen a thread about adding spell check so I guess I might not be the only one who has spelled something wrong a few times.

As for my personal dealing with this Trynex, I NEVER said I was dealing with Trynex direct. I has been working my dealer, and I only was pasing on what we both encountered. Meaning the dealer was working with Trynex direct, and than passing on the information onto me.

As far as Sno-way my only experience with their product helping out a friend that had a new Sno-way plow with the Lexan not poly moldboard which had cracked in about five places the 1st time he was plowing with it during a 2"- 4" wet snow fall. After seeing that 1st hand I guess I form an opinoin. Right or wrong just brand preference I guess.

I must respect the fact that you are very clear in the fact that you have had no problems getting warranty repairs on your 1075, a tailgate unit which Trynex is well know for in the industry. Therfore, one would have to assume the unit was in need of repair while still under warranty, (new) and I do not think you are the type of person to abuse equipment. That alone seems to make a case for the information I was given about increasing warranty claim on Trynex equipment. Although buying new and having a warranty is a good thing, I do not spend money on new equipment only to have in the shop for repairs or expecting it to fail during a storm.

I try to make it clear that what I post is from my direct personal experience and should only be consider one persons view. I think after talking to more than one person about their experience/s with the Vee Pro the issues were consistant among us.

If you are happy with your Trynex Vee Pro spreader and your Sno-way plow then putting your years of experience behind the those products might make help someone in making a purchasing choice. I know I have the highest reguard for what most people on this site have to say.

This is why I love this site. People get to share their personal experiences allowing others to have the availability of information from different applications. Once again, this site is AWESOME.

J&JProperty

12-06-2003, 06:51 PM

I'm not sure if I qualify as a commercail or even a commercial operator, only got a handful of trucks plus subs:confused: I have the 8000 model v-box mounted in the back of my shortbed super duty and have put over 50 ton of salt through it with out a problem. I think for the size, the weight and the overall construction of the unit it is commercial grade, think about it - 400# total weight, I load and unload the unit by myself without wheels, limited steel to rust, no fueling at 3am and -15 degrees outside and basically 2 moving parts auger/spinner. I have yet to have any problem with it, pulled it out of storage this fall and worked like it did when it got put away in April. Could it possibly be that it was luck of the draw and you hard a couple bad parts? Happens on cars all the time.

Joe

Snowboy

12-06-2003, 07:00 PM

Here is a pick of all there units.. Well sorta..

Allot of guys on the old site said the unit was crap as well as a few guys here say its crap. A few local shops here in Ontario are stocking these units this year and say they are selling like hot cake's.

I think if you wanted that half size salter from SnowEx i would go with the DownEastner models. I know they weight more, but they look like good effcient units and you dont have to drill into your truck bed like you do with the Trynex. The DownEasntner units use Nylon strap or at least you have that option.

I have seen one used unit for sale here, but i dont think the guy was too intrested in selling they unit because he never bothred to call me back. His Loss..

Judgeing from what i have read here and the other site it looks like half are on the bench and half are on the ice..

The 8' models retail here for $7000 you can get an Airflow or another steel model for that price already.

Snowboy

12-06-2003, 07:06 PM

The Downeasters Family..

4evergreenlawns

12-06-2003, 07:25 PM

J&J,

Do you only have the one Vee Pro, and do you use your truck as a primary or just to help out?

Would you buy another one?

What other spreader/s are you running and how are they performing?

Are you loading bulk salt or bagged?

For sure it could have been an issue with an early production date. I did run about 120 tons of bulk salt through it last season and it just left a bad taste in my mouth. With all the clogging, poor feeding, baffle placement stated wrong position in operators manual, and need of retrofit within weeks of purchase. Than go to do pre-season checks and it just craps out. Not what I expected when I put $3,300.00 into a new item. I can see they also added a second vibrator as an option, why? I will say that some guys are having great luck with the unit when they are running bagged salt. Great unit for that type of application.

BTW thanks for pointing out the spelling error/s I am sure it was very distracting to the reader. I will spend some more time proofing. Are you stll getting snow in NY?

J&JProperty

12-07-2003, 06:26 PM

Snowboy, you don't have to drill your bed to mount the spreader, its an option. The spreader comes with nylon tie-downs to hold it in place.

4evergreenlawns -
sounds like you had an early production model, mine came with the modifications already in place(except 2nd vibrator).

The spreader is on my truck - primary- I'm the first one out during the storm and usually the last in.

Currently I have only one of the V-box units, I would not hesitate to but another though.

As far as the salt goes, I have only run bulk salt through it, both treated and untreated. The only issue I had with the salt last year was I had a wet load of salt show up- like freshly mind type of wet and I had 1 issue of the auger jamming.

In addition to the Snowex, we got a Snowex 575,a highway V-box, and I'm in the process of adding a hydraulic unit to my F-800

I'm not trying to sell this as the best spreader in the world, but I've had no problems with it and it fits the need. Plus I can still hook up the trailers when its in the bed.

wyldman

12-08-2003, 04:42 AM

I have seen a lot of the Trynex V-boxes around here too,must have been a big push on them.A lot of the guys using them were small outfits,without a lot of salting experience,so their opinions were based solely on that unit,without a lot to compare it to.Most said they worked "OK".

One thing that I have noticed this year,is a lot of the same trucks running one last year,have now switched to something else,either a different v-box,or a tailgate unit.I would only assume that a lot of them were experiencing problems.

4evergreenlawns

12-08-2003, 09:44 AM

Chris,

"One thing that I have noticed this year,is a lot of the same trucks running one last year,have now switched to something else,either a different v-box,or a tailgate unit.I would only assume that a lot of them were experiencing problems."

Same here, I know of at least two guys plus myself that looked at the overall design as the way to go last year but after having a chance to use it I now know why so many of the Steel and SS V boxes basicly all look the same. The other thing is the 1.5Yard capicity was very quesationable. I know my 2yard Swenson is hold about 1 and half more buckets than the Trynex did, and I am not spilling half of bucket in the bed while loading do to the slanted design of the Trynex. If I could of found a Smith or Downeaster dealer locally I would have without a doubt have gone with another all electric unit. So far the Honda it doing great.

Again just my experience.

Snowboy

12-08-2003, 03:40 PM

J&JProperty

You talking about the Trynex units or the other units i posted a pic on ? I know the other units use Nylon straps as an option but didnt think the Trynex you could use that.

I'd rather pay $1000 more for something that is proven to work and not have to turn around and sell it the next year and loose $2000 onit..

BWinkel

12-18-2003, 02:37 AM

Just saw a Trynex V pro in action yesterday at the local grocery store parking lot. It looked like a two man operation to me. One guy was driving the truck, the other was standing in the back and jabbing the salt with a broom handle. Sure was quiet though.

4evergreenlawns

12-18-2003, 03:46 AM

Been there done that but as a one man operation. However, I threw in the broom stick with the Vee Pro I sold. Broom stick is not required with the real V box I own now. :argue

But do not say anything bad about Trynex Vee Pro too loud or else a black van will show up in front of your house and you might not been seen for a few days. :eek:

Joey D

12-21-2003, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Alan
4ever,

Why were you having to deal directly with Trynex for our warranty claims? Seems like the dealer should have been getting warrranty items resolved. The dealer handled my warranty stuff on a 1075 with no real hassles.

I'm not sure what you were trying to say about Sno-Way. They don't make "ploy" plows, they don't make poly plows either. What they DO make is a pretty decent, lightweight plow that uses a Lexan skin for the moldboard.

Have you had "issues" with Sno-Way also? Again, our dealer has taken care of us on warranty claims with no hassle to us.

Snowing here now and I'm about to go out and fire up one of the rigs. I'll probably be taking the one with a "ploy" plow and a Trynex spreader and I'm pretty confident both will perform just fine.

No real help to his situation, just pointing out his spelling mistakes and that you like the product that failed him.

ChicagoSnow

01-03-2004, 10:27 AM

I have the VEE Pro 8000 and.......................... its fine!

Yes I do have the "2 vibrators" due to the feedback I researched from the other site.

Yes the vehicle it is set upon is a back-up truck.

Yes it holds roughly 1.75 yards heaped over the top - good enough for a 02 F-350 PSD single wheel, at least for safe operation AND plowing with vehicle (with full load of salt).

I really like the design and hope that the major challenges with the unit have been worked out. I have exposure with gas driven "V-boxes" and hydro under tail gate spreaders, all of which are great machines for specific sites/vehicles.

The VEE Pro is a pick up mountable unit........... should not be viewed as anything more. If you need more spreadable volume of salt you should go with a gas or hydraulic v-box, if you need a light, professional, 1 person operation for spreading bulk salt in a 1-ton < pick-up it is a fine unit.

ChicagoSnow

4evergreenlawns

01-03-2004, 07:53 PM

Chicago Snow,

How long have you had it??? If it is a two vibrator unit it is new this season???

Ron

ChicagoSnow

01-05-2004, 05:24 PM

Ron,

I've had it for 2 + months.

To date has seen about salting events.

ChicagoSnow

ChicagoSnow

01-05-2004, 05:26 PM

Ron,

Sorry......... 5 salting events to date.

ChicagoSnow

Elite1

01-19-2004, 07:13 PM

I bought mine new back in Nov. From a dealer that did not stock any of them. I only have 1 vibrator. Where does the second one go on the unit. Does it help?

Do you think that mine should have one also. Was it an up grade.
Will they give it to me for free.

Any info would help? What is the trynex/snowex web site.

ChicagoSnow

01-20-2004, 08:28 AM

Second vibrator goes directly above the spinner, mounted on the "yellow poly" exposed face of the salter hopper, below the stop light....... I believe.

It is not free. ($300-$400 upgrade)

I dont know what it would be like with only 1 vibrator so I couldnt tell you if there is a dramatic difference with 2?????

No company (Trynex) web site that I know of...........

ChicagoSnow

weasel

01-20-2004, 08:59 PM

whats up joe im a new member on this site were the hell is the snow in chicago.p.s. right back i hope you know who i am from my name

Elite1

01-20-2004, 09:41 PM

My spreader is load as it is. 2 Vib. Might wake people??

Does the flow of salt keep up with it? After I empty half of my load, the flow slows down, only like 75%.

Elite1

01-20-2004, 09:45 PM

Sorry, type oh. load=loud

I would think that having the second vib. mounted their that it would help move help into the auger, but not slide down the slope?:huh

ChicagoSnow

01-25-2004, 11:54 AM

The salt keeps sliding down "the slope" of the poly hopper!

With or with out the second vibrator I cant answer. The fact is, salt flow to auger is consistent with the 2 vibrators.

As far as noise of the vibrators goes, I would rather hear the hum of vibrators (ha, ha, ha...........) over the sound of a gas engine!

All in all I am pleased with the Trynex 8000 unit.

ChicagoSnow

4evergreenlawns

01-25-2004, 01:34 PM

Chicago Snow,

Glad to hear it is working great for you. What the type of snow/ice events we have been having I can not even think what guys that are not offering salt work are dong for cash.

I will admit I will be looking for an ALL electric set up of some type for my 04 F-350.

How is your dump insert doing?? Looking like I am leaning in that direction just which one is the question. I know I want a SS insert and I would really like a center dischare spreader tailgate. Downeaster seems to be the only one with a center discharge. Do you know of any others.

Looks like more 1-3 snow and ice over the next few day, and maybe a real 6"-8" early next week lets hope for the best.

ChicagoSnow

01-25-2004, 01:57 PM

4evergreenlawns,

The Trynex V8000 is my first electric spreader, over all I am pleased.

As far as dump inserts go I have 3 different makes/models.

1) E-Z Dumper -steel

2) Truck Craft -aluminum/stainless

3) Truck Craft -steel

Over all, they all do the job.....................

If you want the most HD steel unit I would say E-Z dumper is best.

The Truck Craft aluminum/stainless is a good unit. Expensive but better for the overall productive life expectancy (I would assume). The only factor that steered me off of the Truck Craft tail gate salter was the "dumper itself"! The dumper, especially in colder temps is very fickle. The bed takes very long to lower in cold temps. I would hate to get caught up in some of those low lying power lines........... now what??????

I will say that I am impressed with the over all performance of the Trynex.

I think more actual user testimonial would have swayed me to purchase the Truck Craft spreader and dumper for the latest "upfitted" truck. I just couldnt find enough information on the Truck Craft spreader??? Truck Craft should really step up to the plate and be interactive on the web to sell more of their product............ INFORMATION IS KING!

The Truck Craft steel dumper is functionally fine, but seems made with light duty/gauge steel. One may assume for more payload(less weight) but I just dont care for the "bouncy" steel floor between supports when you walk in the dumper.

Hope that helps........

ChicagoSnow

Snowboy

02-08-2004, 05:42 PM

Who is useing electric, either the 6' and 8' Trynex plastic models or Metal electric salter's?

Just wondering if the electric models from Trynex have improved and do the work like a Gas salter or do you have to crawl around the lot at a snails pace?

Lawngodfather

02-08-2004, 09:35 PM

What I don't like about the is;

Hard to load, the shape of the body does not allow for a 78" bucket from the side.

Don't hold alot of salt. I put 2.5 yards in my 8' v boxes.

You count on the salt sliding down to the auger. mine a chain pulls it to the spinner, thus also alowing for small clumps tp be broken up. I have also run load of salt through it to screen it.

The people I have talked to that have one can't spread as fast as I can with my gas powered V boxes.

ChicagoSnow

02-09-2004, 08:57 AM

LGF,

Your right about the salting speed in which you can operate the Trynex unit in comparison to a gas V-box. But 100% productivity gains over a "tailgate electric spreader- manually loaded" are realized every day!

You have to understand, this spreader is mounted in my daily driver............. looks are somewhat important (you know what I mean???)

I think the Trynex unit is fantastic! BUT, it is simply a step up over a electric tail gate spreader for those of us that have access to bulk salt and really do not want to manually fill the small tail gate hoppers every 5 minutes.

Central hydraulics are by far my operating system of choice for salt spreading equipment. However, not financially practical for a 1 ton pick up.

ChicagoSnow

4evergreenlawns

02-09-2004, 12:44 PM

Chicagosnow,

Who is the EZ dump dealer you get support from?? DO they make a tailgate spreader for their dump inserts?

Oh, and thanks for clearifing that the Trynex is good if you are using it in the right application with the right expectations.

That is what I have been saying all along. Just a step up from a tailgate hand loaded unit but not a all out bulk salt commercial all night long unit. As with LGF. I am getting about 2.5 in my 8' V box when you are running two of those loading twice a night that would be like saving two loads if I was running two Vee Pros. Not including the extra time messing with getting them loaded.

I am a FAN of all electirc just have to have the right all electric unit for what you need to get done. I am really looking forward to running a dump insert and a spreader tailgate ALL electric next year. And you were right, NOTHING beats a nice undertailgate Central HYDs. set up on a med size dump. Next step up would have to be a tandum axle flat bed with a Hyd V box. Not there just yet, but give me two more years.

ChicagoSnow

02-09-2004, 01:43 PM

4evergreenlawns,

The dealer that I purchased the steel E-Z dumper (in 1998), was Adams Enterprises in McHenry. Talk to Rich Jr. or Mike Parks, real easy to deal with in my opinion (815)385-2600

As far as the electric salter/tail gate attachment for the e-z dumper is concerned, I have not seen one for sale there, nor have I asked if they sell it?

I think the Truck Craft aluminum dumper with their aluminum/stainless steel salt spreader tail gate is the most professional, well constructed dumper/spreader combo available today. For $7,500 it better do the job!

ChicagoSnow

John DiMartino

02-15-2004, 06:02 AM

I wanted to chime in with my vpro experiences this yr. So far mines been great this yr.The biggest complaint is the uneven loading,but I did know about that when I bought it.It still spreads slightly heavy to the right,but it hasnt clogged once,This last storm I ran 3-4 loads of salt and 2 loads of mix thru it,the mix is slow to come down,if I ran it a lot id get a 2nd vibrator for it. I run straight salt 99% of the time.The salt even sat in the spreader afew days and it worked no problem at all.

Snowboy

02-15-2004, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by John DiMartino
I wanted to chime in with my vpro experiences this yr. So far mines been great this yr.The biggest complaint is the uneven loading,but I did know about that when I bought it.It still spreads slightly heavy to the right,but it hasnt clogged once,This last storm I ran 3-4 loads of salt and 2 loads of mix thru it,the mix is slow to come down,if I ran it a lot id get a 2nd vibrator for it. I run straight salt 99% of the time.The salt even sat in the spreader afew days and it worked no problem at all.

John so would you buy another one of these if you had a choice or for another truck?

I was thinking of getting into plowing next season and i have seen a few around and they look good and seeing as this is my person truck as well i like the fact it comes off when you want to take it off. The price on they is pretty high here in Ontario and im sure i can get my self a steel unit for the price of the plastic one. There was a guy selling one in a auto trader magazine but he didnt get back to me.

Depending on funds and the amount of work i can drum up i would either go with the Trynex or special order a Downeastr or Smith electric spreader, but if i canf ind a few large contracts i would look into buying a used small city salt truck and maybe do topsoil delivery int he Green season. I am not a mechanic or know much about gas engines so i wana shy away from gas.

Dave.