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Jerre Heyer
03-08-2005, 01:35 PM
Just got done doing a down pressure conversion on my 810 power plow.:D
This little conversion has been in the works for a while now. The last one I did involved welding the lift arm directly to the bottom of the push beam....Down pressure worked great but it was a pain to take off the truck.
This versions involves a pin and bushing set up to allow for an easier removal and install.
Currently working on a quick pin unit so I don't have to reach under the push beam to hook it up.
The "up" side is that with the plow in down pressure mode it will lift the front of the truck over 5".
Wiring and switching are being converted to allow variable down pressure.
Jerre:shades
BWhite
03-08-2005, 01:47 PM
Now you need to develop wings that will extend backwards for back dragging without spilloff
Jerre Heyer
03-08-2005, 02:03 PM
Already in process.......
cat320
03-08-2005, 02:28 PM
Jerre house builder,plow fabricater/installer/salesman.one man operationand new DAD . where do you find the time to do R&D :)
Jerre Heyer
03-08-2005, 02:31 PM
Who needs sleep.
Pelican
03-08-2005, 02:32 PM
Sounds like I'm going to be looking to trade another 810.......
Geez Jerre, where do you find the time????:notworthy
pbeering
03-08-2005, 02:38 PM
And how far out are you booking for that one?
cat320
03-08-2005, 02:39 PM
Jerre I think you do more R&D than Blizzard does LOL. Now what about that sander and now plow they have out I would like to know about that sander that does bag and bulk.I'm sure you must of took some really good pics of it . :D
dapgar
03-08-2005, 04:49 PM
so jerre, when I come out to get my 810 installed, you can give me the DOWN pressure mod too? I can't imagine lifting my truck 5" off the ground, that must be awesome.
I'm glad you are doing so much R&D for these plows, even though they are great to begin with, you are making them even better. The company should just do away with their R&D team, and just report to you for all the answers. :)
How come you're so damn smart?
John DiMartino
03-08-2005, 05:50 PM
Jerre,so when are we hooking it up on my 810:D :burnout
CraftyBigDog
03-08-2005, 06:34 PM
Pictures!!!!!!!!
Chuck Smith
03-08-2005, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by John DiMartino
Jerre,so when are we hooking it up on my 810:D :burnout
I think he still has a slot open on April 16th. :D
It's a good thing you are 7 hours away Jerre, or Chris would be pretty mad at me!
~Chuck
Lawngodfather
03-08-2005, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by Chuck Smith
I think he still has a slot open on April 16th. :D And then you can get another "Erie Special" sticker......
Jerre Heyer
03-09-2005, 06:29 AM
Well Chuck,
I don't think Chris would get too mad. Remember I do have a cute face. Women love me....HA ( knew you needed a laugh ) ...Kids fear me......
She and Amy could hang out together and wonder when we were coming home from the next project.
The mod is only possible on the older plows to have it hold the truck up. Otherwise it drifts back down but if you hold the button on theses will still scrape.
Problem incountered last night was the fact that the plow pressure on the scale changes from #660-#680 with the plow in float to #2300 in down pressure. Takes the truck combined weight from #8K range to #6K range. Have to get some 4 wheel scales to see how much transfer from front to rear and removed from the front.
I'd hate to engage this thing going forward under full pressure. A pressure limiter is definatly needed.
Jerre
BrahmaBull
03-09-2005, 07:08 AM
Power it off the back up switch then it would only work in reverse at full down pressure..that much down pressure back dragging would be awsome
snowplowjay
03-09-2005, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by Jerre Heyer
I'd hate to engage this thing going forward under full pressure. A pressure limiter is definatly needed.
Jerre
Now you need new bumper stickers!!!
"May the DOWNforce be with you"
:D
Jay
wyldman
03-09-2005, 07:29 AM
Snoway (Parker) secondary valve block would work.Down pressure limit control,as well as keeping the downpressure at the preset limit if it falls below due to changes in the level of the blade.
bud16415
03-09-2005, 07:48 AM
Jerre
We need to have a meeting. I think I have just the plan for you and Blizzard. Maybe a little negative down pressure would be cool also.
The trouble I found with lifting the front end to get down pressure is the front springs become the means of float on the blade. And they are way to strong to allow for the kind of reaction time you need when you clip something doing 35 MPH.
Until you have plowed with true full floating down pressure you just haven’t experienced it all. The truck stays level but the blade is being held tight to the road under pressure as the grade changes the force remains the same but instead of the front of the truck coming up the blade raises just like it was in float but all the time staying at the same down pressure.
It’s also pretty cool to hear the noise change when you plow with negative down pressure at higher speeds with full float.
Bud
Jerre Heyer
03-09-2005, 08:36 AM
Brama, Had already wired it to the back up switch for power option in reverse.
Chris, I was going to take a block off a snoway next and add that in. Have a couple of them from damaged plows down here.
Bud, I was looking over you whole setup when you were here and on the truck. We've got to work on a setup for the Blizzard plow for sure.
Now for better tires..........The coopers aren't going to last.
Jerre
John Banks
03-09-2005, 08:56 AM
Originally posted by Jerre Heyer
Now for better tires..........The coopers aren't going to last.
Jerre [/B]
Jerre, sounds like these tracks would be what you need...
Jerre Heyer
03-11-2005, 03:45 PM
Just got done with another down pressure unit. Of course this one has been modified a little on the other direction also.
Truck has a 6" supension lift and the plow and stops were modified to give a high lift stacking ability. Cutting edge makes 31" off the ground.
Who says you can't plow with a lifted truck.
Joey D
03-11-2005, 05:30 PM
Jerre, Any pictures of the mounts on that lifted truck or what you did to make the a frame level? I want to raise my truck a few inches but the beam on the truck side mount is as low as it will go.
BWhite
03-11-2005, 05:38 PM
If I went with a 810 with downpressure and combine it with the down pressure of my backplow I will either go nowhere or have a scraping monster .
T-Zab
03-11-2005, 07:18 PM
Bill guess your going to need some of them Coopers these guys keep raving about.
Todd
Jerre Heyer
03-12-2005, 06:02 AM
Joey, Lifted truck require either adding to the bottom of the current mount or cutting the mount you have and adding to the middle. Your cheve is a 98 so if it's still the old 88-98 body style and not an early 99 then all you have to do is add a couple of inches to the side plates and drill the new holes. You will want a cross bar between the side plates if you get over 3" and may want to put a set ov v braces on the side plates like the dodge's. You could do a search to see the ones I did on John D's install.
You may have to add to the back tab for the cross memeber support also as you lower the push bar. You can run at 14.5" to the center of the bushing but will see accelerated wing tip wear if you do this. Try to keep at about 13" unless you want it to scrape better and can live with a little wear on the wing tips.
The truck in the photo has a bridge kit ( cut out the old crossmemeber and put in a new on ) and the mount is alot different than anything you would do to a "stock" truck with bigger tires or a 2-3" lift. The bridge kit give 6-8" of lift.
As for front blade and back blade downpressure....He can almost change his tires with both down.
Jerre
Joey D
03-12-2005, 12:11 PM
Thanks Jerre. My plow does sit at the 14.5 in mark so that explains my accelerated wing wear. Not a lot but noticable wear. It's worth it the way the plow works anyways.
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