View Full Version : Nor'Easter - Feb28-Mar1
GMC Driver
02-25-2005, 05:13 PM
Well, they used that word- Nor'Easter, on the local weather forecasts here on the 6 p.m. news. The two fellows from Buffalo- channel 2 and channel 4 both said things are shaping up for a large storm to start on Monday. Two Low pressure systems are to converge, with the centre of the Low to track right through Southern Ontario, from Detroit up through Toronto. No set determination on potential accumulation, etc. Temps so far are projected above freezing (34/35), so not alot makes sense yet.
These are also the fellas who said we would be getting 1-3" by midnight tonight (was supposed to start this afternoon). Haven't seen a thing yet and it's after 9 p.m.
Wait and see, I guess!
BWhite
02-26-2005, 03:41 AM
We could get rain here, maybe some back end snow . Up North , it looks like this one is for you ::D
Accuweather is showing 4" for Monday/Monday night and another 4" for Tuesday.
Might actually be at least one good push in there. This year I'm not getting overly enthused just to get disappointed. If this one does happen, anyone taking odds on it being the last for the year?
Rainer
02-26-2005, 04:32 AM
Waited all night hoping for some snow! Got up this morning at 6 am and found just a dusting on the ground. Let's just hope this NorEaster is going to bring us some work! God only knows I can use the money.
atgreene
02-26-2005, 01:28 PM
Everything I've heard for Southern Maine says snow/rain along coast with heavy snow inland, or heavy snow everywhere. Their not even hinting at anything less. This will be # 14, I think. We've still got another month of good plowing. March of '93? was one of my busiest months.
cutntrim
02-26-2005, 03:50 PM
Last night I went to bed at 11:30 and it was snowing. Woke up at 6:30 and headed out to salt/scrape the +/- 3cm that we got overnight. Sun came out and everything was bone dry and clear by the afternoon.
Don't know about any long-term forcasts, but there's a huge storm system in Texas that looks like it'll swing up our way in a couple days. Definately wouldn't be surprised if we get hammered. Usually we get it the worst when it comes up through the Ohio valley and the temps are around the freezing mark...
nsmilligan
02-26-2005, 05:26 PM
Like Maine, here they don't know if it will rain or snow, but it looks like March will come in like a lion.
Bill
BWhite
02-26-2005, 05:55 PM
Now I hear 6-12 for my area
cat320
02-26-2005, 06:08 PM
Bill they said that the other night I thought that the total would good down because we would get more rain .
BWhite
02-26-2005, 06:17 PM
Ok 4" sounds good to me :D We my as well put in an order our guess is as good as theirs
cutntrim
02-27-2005, 04:19 AM
Environment Canada issued a Special Weather Statement early this morning. Still to far out to predict with any accuracy, but they're expecting 20cm+ (8"+) and lots of blowing and drifting.
The radar, and my gut, tells me we could get more than that. We'll see...In the meantime I'm gonna get as much rest as I can since we've got plenty of early warning on this one.
:canada
Got Snow?
02-27-2005, 05:31 AM
Just heard 6-12" for this area with persisting flurries until Wednesday.
This will change again, last night at 11 they said 3-6". We'll no when it stops snowing how much we've gotten.
cat320
02-27-2005, 05:50 AM
[We'll no when it stops snowing how much we've gotten. [/B][/QUOTE]
It changes every hour stay tuned till right before you go out to plow.With all the technology they have a harder time now then when they used to just look out the window and say 4-8" :D
jt5019
02-27-2005, 06:11 AM
Winter Storm Watch
VALID FROM SUN FEB 27 2005 04:14 AM EST UNTIL SUN FEB 27 2005 11:00 AM EST.
BERGEN NJ-BRONX NY-EASTERN PASSAIC NJ-ESSEX NJ-HUDSON NJ- KINGS (BROOKLYN) NY-NASSAU NY-NEW YORK (MANHATTAN) NY- NORTHEAST SUFFOLK NY-NORTHERN FAIRFIELD CT-NORTHERN MIDDLESEX CT- NORTHERN NEW HAVEN CT-NORTHERN NEW LONDON CT-NORTHWEST SUFFOLK NY- QUEENS NY-RICHMOND (STATEN IS.) NY-SOUTHEAST SUFFOLK NY- SOUTHERN FAIRFIELD CT-SOUTHERN MIDDLESEX CT-SOUTHERN NEW HAVEN CT- SOUTHERN NEW LONDON CT-SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER NY-SOUTHWEST SUFFOLK NY- UNION NJ- 357 AM EST SUN FEB 27 2005 ...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN UPTON NY HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT... AS STRONG LOW PRESSURE MOVES UP THE COAST ON MONDAY...SNOW WILL SPREAD NORTHWARD IN ADVANCE OF IT...LIKELY ARRIVING LATE MONDAY MORNING OR EARLY AFTERNOON. SOME MIXING WITH RAIN OR SLEET WILL BE POSSIBLE BY LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING...WHICH COULD HOLD DOWN SNOW ACCUMULATIONS SOMEWHAT. EVEN SO...CURRENT INDICATIONS ARE THAT A 6 INCH OR GREATER SNOWFALL COULD OCCUR BY THE TIME THE SNOW TAPERS OFF MONDAY NIGHT. IN ADDITION...WINDS COULD BECOME QUITE STRONG DURING THE PERIOD OF HEAVIEST PRECIPITATION...ALLOWING FOR REDUCED VISIBILITIES. AT THIS TIME THE EXACT TRACK OF THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. ANY SHIFT EAST OR WEST OF THE CURRENT FORECAST TRACK COULD HAVE A DRASTIC EFFECT ON FINAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS...AND HOW MUCH SLEET AND RAIN MIXES IN...IF ANY. A WINTER STORM WATCH IS ISSUED WHEN SEVERE WINTER WEATHER IS POSSIBLE...BUT NOT IMMINENT. AT THE TIME...THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS. FUTURE DRIVING AND WALKING CONDITIONS MAY BECOME HAZARDOUS...SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.
Plowski
02-27-2005, 07:26 AM
Attached is a link to one of the weather discussion boards that contains a bunch of continually updated weather maps.
You can see this storm coming together now over the Southeast, and can then watch it as it heads wherever it chooses to go. If the big swirling white area makes it to your area, check outside to see if things are white. If so, go plowing.
I like the water vapor map. It clearly shows a couple of storms now heading for the west coast.
http://www5.wright-weather.com/bb/showthread.php?threadid=44201
Ed.
digger242j
02-27-2005, 07:45 AM
The forecast for Pittsburgh has been every bit as indefinite as everywhere else, if not moreso.
I've given up on trying to get a handle on when and how much we'll end up with. I've decided just to paraphrase the dierctions you find on shampoo bottles. (You know--Lather, Rinse, Repeat.)
Plow, Salt, Repeat...
BWhite
02-27-2005, 02:31 PM
Ch 7 just upped this area to 12"+
jt5019
02-27-2005, 03:25 PM
it's Gonna be a loooong night of plowing:)
CT18fireman
02-27-2005, 05:48 PM
Currently NOAA is calling for 8-14" for my area. Time frame is from 4PM-4AM. Lot of snow to fall in that time frame.
I guess we will see
jt5019
02-27-2005, 05:51 PM
I will be perfectly happy not getting that much ,its going to be heavy wet sloppy snow.Just give me enough to plow and make :cash
CT18fireman
02-28-2005, 03:21 AM
Supposed to stay around 25 here all through the storm. That should keep it pretty dry. With the time frame, should be able to plow with the storm without issue.
GMC Driver
02-28-2005, 03:37 AM
This morning the official word is 4-6" starting after noon today, throught the evening. Tuesday will bring another 4-6", and winds will increase. Wednesday brings flurries and blowing snow. So three days before it clears out.
I just wish we could get some times nailed down. I prefer to keep all the plowing throught the overnight hours, and rest during the day, but persistent snow may prevent that.
atgreene
02-28-2005, 03:51 AM
10-16 here. I've got alot of work to do today to get ready. May even put the V on the Topkick:D
2004F550
02-28-2005, 09:35 AM
Man i wish I was back in waterford maine lol they're gonna get hammered by that map, gotta go up there thursday to get our new sled trailer in Bridgton, maybe i can sneak a ride in lol........
John DiMartino
02-28-2005, 01:18 PM
This is all too familar, its 515 pm here, all the schools closed early,and everything is cancelled,it hasnt even started snowing yet.I had to scramble to get home in time for the kids getting home at noon for the "impending snow" we still havent got yet.:confused: I hope we get 3-4" out of this system.
lbgirl
02-28-2005, 01:35 PM
Well it's been coming down here since around 1pm, just starting to stick now. They "say" the big snow is yet to come, but as always we just have to wait and see :rolleyes: The forecast changes by the minute, lol. It's coming down pretty good here on the island tho. I think up north you are "supposed" to be getting more snow, where here it's going to mix with rain. I think you'll get some good work out of this ;)
CT18fireman
02-28-2005, 01:44 PM
I was just about to post the same line John. Now, as I type the local weather "alert" is coming on.
Still not snowing.
gslam88
02-28-2005, 02:08 PM
Guys,
A couple of things... Local news here just moved up the amounts to 8-15 in the last couple
I have been talking to several places from DC, Virgina and Maryland... looks like they are getting it kinda now.. so it's coming .. weither it gets here is another story...
Pete
I've been watching the radar and I'm feeling like new bride. I'm pretty sure we'll get something, but I have no idea how many inches it will be or how long it will last
John DiMartino
02-28-2005, 03:00 PM
Its 700 here,and finally its started snowing. At this point im not watching the weather ,since its happening now,its better to look out the window and see what we've got,since the "forcasting" just isnt working, they were way late on the start time of it,im not buying the amounts forcasted either.
Pete, dont buy them moving up the amounts,because an hour from now they'll move them back down,they do it to keep you tuned to them,for ther ratings and advetisement.
Chuck Smith
02-28-2005, 03:02 PM
Got about an inch on the ground here now. Coming down heavy and sideways. I think the totals were increased because the storm slowed down. As usual, we'll have to wait and see.
~Chuck
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MOUNT HOLLY NJ
321 PM EST MON FEB 28 2005
NJZ001-PAZ054-055-010200-
CARBON PA-MONROE PA-SUSSEX NJ-
321 PM EST MON FEB 28 2005
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN MOUNT HOLLY NEW JERSEY CONTINUES THE
WINTER STORM WARNING FOR TONIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING...
STRONG LOW PRESSURE WILL CONTINUE TO INTENSIFY AND THEN MOVE UP THE
EASTERN SEABOARD THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. PRECIPITATION HAS
OVERSPREAD THE ENTIRE REGION WITH SNOW INCREASING IN INTENSITY
DURING THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT HOURS. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN COLD
ENOUGH TO SUPPORT ALL SNOW, AND THE SNOW WILL BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES
TOWARD THE RUSH HOUR AND CONTINUE THROUGH THE EVENING INTO THE
OVERNIGHT HOURS.
SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 6 TO 9 INCHES ARE EXPECTED THROUGH TOMORROW
MORNING. DURING TIMES OF HEAVY SNOW THIS EVENING, THE SNOW COULD FALL
AT A RATE OF 1 OR 2 INCHES PER HOUR.
atgreene
02-28-2005, 03:31 PM
Not snowing yet here. Trucks are ready, even put the tire cables on the Topkick and the pick-up. I just got a set for the Topkick and thought I'd try 'em out.
Weather prognosticators are talking anywhere from 12-18" for this area depending on who you listen to.
To top it off, I'm on my own for this one, my brother who normally runs the pick-up is in Utah skiing. I need to explain to him that there is plenty of good skiing in late April out there.
Dockboy
02-28-2005, 03:46 PM
It's been snowing here since about noon. Very wet, temps were right around 32. There is about 2 " on the ground, but only an inch on the roads. Temps have dropped enough so now it's sticking. We are in a lull but about to get hammered from the back side. Forecast are still calling for 5-8 but I don't know:confused:
I'm ready anyway:D
http://home.comcast.net/~gdapron/P1010010.JPG
BWhite
02-28-2005, 03:53 PM
Everyone take their time and be safe . It going to be a long night.
cat320
02-28-2005, 03:59 PM
Every channel I look at says a different amount ? It would be nice if they actually did know something LOL .It will be a long night that is for sure just hope it starts after 10pm .
GeeMC
02-28-2005, 04:03 PM
Channel 7 just said there will be 2" on the ground in 1 hour. It isn't even snowing yet!! :rolleyes:
nsmilligan
02-28-2005, 04:05 PM
Looks like 2-4" here then rain, enough to get us going in the morning, and try to plow before it melts!:shades
Bill
cutntrim
02-28-2005, 04:08 PM
Anywhere between 10-20cm (4-8") is being forecasted for us now. It's snowing lightly, has been for a few hours. Time to lie down until around 11:30-12:00am, then the annoying checking out the window each hour begins...
snowplowjay
02-28-2005, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Alan
I've been watching the radar and I'm feeling like new bride. I'm pretty sure we'll get something, but I have no idea how many inches it will be or how long it will last
ROFLMAO Alan!!!!
Well its been snowing for about an hour and a half here now.............a little over an inch on the ground and its very windy.........
Jay
CT18fireman
02-28-2005, 04:41 PM
That's a scary thought.
We got maybe 2" now. Just went out for an alarm. Very heavy snowfall, roads are going downhill fast.
cutntrim
02-28-2005, 07:12 PM
Been snowing pretty good for quite a while here. Be heading out at midnight to start looping around the route. Not supposed to stop snowing until tomorrow evening. One of those deals where nobody will have a clean lot for the morning. Those that were just plowed will have less accumulation than those that were plowed hours ago. Means we'll probably field the usual bonehead calls of "Where are you?", by those who've already been plowed...
DSmythCT
03-01-2005, 03:06 AM
still snowing in farmington area.......there callin for and additional 1-4 inches but i dont think anybody knows what there talking about
cutntrim
03-01-2005, 05:00 AM
As usual the weather geeks got all jacked up about nothing. We got +/- 6" overnight. Dropped the blade at the first property at around 12:30a.m. and was back home by 8:30.
Still snowing lightly, maybe we'll get another inch or two. Scrape/salt later tonight.
:canada
wyldman
03-01-2005, 05:36 AM
We got 5-6" of nice snow,easy to plow.Went out at 12pm,done by 9:00 am.Best part is,nothing broke. :D
Looks like another 2-3" for today\tonight,so we'll get one more run in tonight.
snowjoker
03-01-2005, 05:58 AM
Got about 9 inches here and still falling:D Saying 2-5 today then another 2-5 tonight . Winds are supposed to pick up this afternoon :eek:
DSmythCT
03-01-2005, 06:41 AM
why would u start at 12 if the storm wasnt supposed to end untill 7 this morning.......sleep a little, and i dont understand how u guys were done by 8 the snow is still fallin and theres more work to do
wyldman
03-01-2005, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by DSmythCT
why would u start at 12 if the storm wasnt supposed to end untill 7 this morning.......sleep a little, and i dont understand how u guys were done by 8 the snow is still fallin and theres more work to do
#1 - Plow with the storm.It's much easier to push 6 inches twice,than 12 inches once.
#2 - Commercials need to be open for 7 am.They would get awful upset if they hadn't been plowed once before 7 am.
#3 - you can't plow squat during the day,as your stuck in traffic,and have to wait forever to back out onto roadways.
I could go on and on...........:D
Kentucky
03-01-2005, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by DSmythCT
why would u start at 12 if the storm wasnt supposed to end untill 7 this morning.......sleep a little, and i dont understand how u guys were done by 8 the snow is still fallin and theres more work to do
snow is easier to push the less there is. 6"is easier and quicker to push twice than 12" at once. Also some buisnesses are open 24/7 like gas stations,kinkos. I plow a college and some city parking lots so if it snows at night my stuff has to be done by 6:00am if possible. The lots also have to remain clear all day so if it keeps snowing you keep plowing. It's always better to be ahead than behind. As far as residentials go we usually wait until the storms done unless the homeowner calls. thats just my thoughts:rolleyes:
BWhite
03-01-2005, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by DSmythCT
why would u start at 12 if the storm wasnt supposed to end untill 7 this morning.......sleep a little, and i dont understand how u guys were done by 8 the snow is still fallin and theres more work to do
Plow with the storm . As stated, it easier on the equipment and it allows one to carry more customers
2004F550
03-01-2005, 01:27 PM
We keep the private roads up during the day and some parts of commericals...but other then that we just let it pile up, cant afford to have guys on over time out driving around until the storm is over, guess were luckey we have the Cat loaders and power angle plows, they'll push anything, I can see why pick-up's need to plow with the storm though.....all depends on the plowing operation IMO.....
DSmythCT
03-01-2005, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by DSmythCT
why would u start at 12 if the storm wasnt supposed to end untill 7 this morning.......sleep a little, and i dont understand how u guys were done by 8 the snow is still fallin and theres more work to do
well i can see where u guys are coming from if we got 12 inches but look outside theres 6 or 7 across CT. You still can wake up at 3 in the morning and get things done not 12 there wasnt even 2 inches at 12........you get the commericails done first then the ressis, it dont matter how much stuff u got to to you canstill get it done......unless your one of these wanabees with a ford pick up and a tailgate spreader not a real sander.......(and sweet strobes and hideaways)
CT18fireman
03-01-2005, 07:17 PM
We ended up with about 9 inches here. Did not get everything cleaned up till about noon, as we had a heavy band come through between 9-10 that set us back.
Gotten about another inch since sunset. Will probably have to go out early in the morning again.
Pickering Snow
03-02-2005, 02:34 AM
Twevle here and over almost a 30 hr period seems the old east coast storm wouldnt let ours get out of dodge started monday night finished this morning iam a zombie ran a loader with a 14ft pusher box kinda think the loader buf has bit me.
apgarconstruction
03-02-2005, 02:58 AM
We got about 9-10 inches in my area, some areas nearby got a little less. It was pretty heavy snow. got a full run in. Subbed for BRL and then did my whole route. woke up this morning to a slight dusting over everything again.
hope everyone was safe. some talk about another storm for this weekend. i'm not getting my hopes up though.
3 storms in 8 days for NJ, haven't seen that in a long time.
CT18fireman
03-02-2005, 03:05 AM
We got 2" fresh this morning. Did all the commercials and steep residentials again. Will probably get a few calss for other residentials this morning and send a truck out for them. Toying with the trigger but after the last week, giving people a break.
apgarconstruction
03-02-2005, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by DSmythCT
well i can see where u guys are coming from if we got 12 inches but look outside theres 6 or 7 across CT. You still can wake up at 3 in the morning and get things done not 12 there wasnt even 2 inches at 12........you get the commericails done first then the ressis, it dont matter how much stuff u got to to you canstill get it done......unless your one of these wanabees with a ford pick up and a tailgate spreader not a real sander.......(and sweet strobes and hideaways)
I don't know how many accounts you have, but there is no way that I could have woke up at 3am and got all my accounts done by the time they needed to be out. I left my house at 9pm monday night, and didn't return home until 1pm tuesday afternoon. that was straight plowing the whole time, other than driving to residentials (which was the last 7 hours of my route).
BTW, I have a ford pickup, and a small spreader on the back of my truck. It works for me, and for the amount of salting that I need to do. There are a lot of guys on here with setups similar to mine. I don't think we are all WANNABES. I would think a little more before you decide to make statements like that.
Got Snow?
03-02-2005, 03:58 AM
we ended up here with about 5-6" total. i left at midnight, but it was a couple hours early. It stopped sooner than expected and wasn't all that bad. i was prepared to battle the whole day but ended up at home around w2pm.
once again the local news stations seem to sensationalize the chance of snow. they bring your expectations up and then it's a flop. on the other hand it puts the customer into a panic which is nice since i signed up three new customers.
John DiMartino
03-02-2005, 04:10 AM
we got 10-11" here.Most of it fell between 1130pm and 200am.We pushed all commercials twice,and residentials once. Last night we got another inch around 800pm,so we had to salt all the commercials.
GMC Driver
03-02-2005, 04:33 AM
We started Mon. night at midnight. Got a full push in, average 5 inches. Put a little salt down on the comm., but it snowed off and on all day. Everyone was back by 2 pm. Started again at 9pm, and another full plow due to about a fresh 2-3 inches, and some drifting. Most were back by 7 am, I just got back at 8:20, and the last truck is out spreading the last salt. It is still flurrying here, but the sun is trying to poke out. So we'll see, but I'll probably check it all again tonight.
crashz
03-02-2005, 06:07 AM
Same here. Started Monday night at midnight, plowed until about 5:30 and spread some sand and salt until 8:00 am. Between the lighter than expected snowfall and the extra equipment that the boss brought in, we got done much quicker than expected. I have a feeling he kept me on an extra hour or so just to give me an even 8 hrs.
cutntrim
03-02-2005, 07:33 AM
We also ended up with an additional 2" after the light snow during the day yesterday. One driver was out during the afternoon re-doing the residentials and hitting some little unoccupied industrial drives, while myself and another driver were resting. Then we took over from 7:30-3:30am and scraped/salted the commercial route again.
Had zero equipment problems which was great, and actually had a residential customer call just to leave a message about what a great job we've been doing all year since he signed on. Nice to get a compliment every now and again. Usually, you only know a customer is happy if they aren't calling and leaving messages. Most only pick up the phone if they want to complain...
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