Sidewing?

[Chuck Smith]

I know a couple of you here have a side wing. How about posting some pics?

~Chuck

[nsmilligan]

Here you are.

[nsmilligan]

Had to open the road for the little fella above!:rolleyes:
Here's another.

[nsmilligan]

Here's an easy way to clear a sidewalk, if you can cast to the right.plowing!

[Chuck Smith]

Thanks for posting the pics Bill. That pic of you doing the sidewalk always amazed me. I know it is not such a big deal, but I bet not many think of that use for the wing. It is just one of those "now why didn't I think of that" things....

~Chuck

[nsmilligan]

This is a front picture of the one above benching off some banks on a driveway after a heavy, 16" snowfall, notice 1 the truck is straight, the amount of snow it's pushing, and it's moving these banks over about 4'!, and I don't have a summer picture of the drive, but there's a deep ditch under the snow, try that with just a blade on front:nope

[Sidewing]

Hi:

People send us pictures of their trucks with Sidewing. I'll just post a couple, so you can see different trucks with Sidewing on.

Here is a GMC working in a Sears parking lot, windrowing for 2 Cat loaders:

[Sidewing]

Sorry, the other pictures I have are on film, haven't scanned them yet. So, here's one of our truck plowing a lot, way up north in Ontario, used by snowmobilers in the winter for their trailers.

[Arc Burn]

I love that first picture Bill has,that is wild!Is that a town road Bill?

[nben]

well, it's not a sidewing, but a wing that is on the side..........

[windmill]

Welcome sidewing. Beautiful pics I especially like the second shot, looks like great country.:)

[snowjoker]

Nice picks!! How do the trucks handle with the wing on it. nsmilligan How does that Sand pro 1875 work out? I'm thinking about getting one next year.

[nsmilligan]

Arc Burn

It's the road right beside my house, the grader operator is my brother who drives for the Ministry of Transportation, It's nice to have your brother as the Gov driver on your road:D Met him at the intersection of my road, as I was coming home from a 14 hr plow day, and told him when he came over the hill by my house to be careful, and I snapped the pic.;)

Bill

[nsmilligan]

Snowjoker

The 1875 is great, it's spread a lot of salt ( magic) and wet sand, I really like the controls you can really fine tune the spread pattern. In order to spread sand you have to remove the baffle plate to get good spread patterns.

Bill

[Highpoint]

God I can't wait to get that Side-Wing!!!!

We just bought our second 1875. We also bought a VP8000. Both use the same control system. Can't wait to put them to work.:grinz

[nsmilligan]

Here's a couple of more pics from last nite. I got the V in the scoop position pushing snow to the far end of the lot about a acre +, mini-mall with the sidewing down I start about aother 4' to the right each pass.

[nsmilligan]

Here it is from another angle.

Bill

[Adams Plowing]

Nice snow storm ya got there... must be nice to get out and play...

[CNY Joe]

Sidewing, welcome to the site, great pics BTW

[W-n-K Landscaping]

Hmmmmmmm...... One ton truck, Blizzard Blade on the front- sidewing on the side- Ability to clear 14' of snow in a pass.....

Sounds like a winning combination to me!!

Great pics guys! Those are some neat setups you've got- can't wait to see more pics of them in action- might have to look at getting a few small roads in my area just so I can get one to play with!! LOL!

Welcome to the site Sidewing! Glad to have you aboard!

Bill

[Adams Plowing]

Bill but then again if ya were running an 8611 you could clear 14' in a pass w/o the sidewing :) so ya would just need a bigger wing then ya could clear like 20' in a pass...

[sonjaab]

PELICAN................Hey !....Didn't you get a new
fancy rig with sideplow last year ?

Post some pics !........geo

[EZSnow]

I would like to discuss the law of diminishing returns as it applies to side-mounted snowplows (sidewing, for example).

Let's say the sidewing clears a real, live 4' swath. I have no reason to think otherwise, and this is not under dispute. Lets say you have a 7'6" blade on the front with a 'wing. A 7'6" only clears the tires by a few inches at full angle (7 feet for argument's sake), so we're using the whole wing, and we have a swath of 11 feet. Lets bump up to an 8'6" front. (8' angled)we have gained a foot- up to 12, right? Well, half of it is redundantly clearing in front of the wing... only up to 11'6" ok, lets go up to a 11 footer (ala blizzard 8611) We've added on 3-1/2 feet from a 7'6", but we've only added 18" effective width... up to 13-1/2. This means that the 'wing is only adding 2 feet to the plow. This also assumes that the full-width of each given blade is used- imossible for most plows in most snow conditions. I just see it being more profitable for small-to-medium sized blades.

That said, those sidewings are SWEET!!
Man, reading over my post... I'm craaaabby!!! I guess that my day at work was longer than I thought it was. Sorry to expose you all to my poor attitude, but this is just something I was thinking about- enjoy.

Maybe I can sleep this head-splitter off.

[W-n-K Landscaping]

EZ Snow- hope your headache is better tmo, and yes you are right- I was just thinking outside the box and having some fun- even though I have had 9 plowable events thus far this season- I cannot get enough of it and I am dying to get out and have some mroe fun plowing! I even plowed the local Grange hall just for fun tonight when I got off my shift at the local ambulance corps!!

I am definitely addicted to snow, and plowing! LOL!!

Get some rest, and hopefully tmo will be a better day for you!

Look forward to catching you later!

Bill:burnout

[Sidewing]

EZSnow:
You make some really valid points. The four feet of clearing a Sidewing adds to your truck is measured from the outside of the rear tire so it is designed to pick up and move the windrow from the front plow that simply clears the tire track.
Jerre Heyer in Erie uses Blizzards (and sells them) of various sizes, he has worked it out so that he can vary the amount of "push out" of Sidewing so he gets to pick up the windrow and still move it over, probably three feet with an 8610 but you could check with him to be sure.
The main point to take into consideration is that a front blade of any length is seldom pushing more than half its length of fresh snow. In other words an eight foot front plow, after the first pass and angled to avoid spill to the leading side will most often be pushing about four feet of new snow, therefore the Sidewing's four feet has doubled your productivity. And because Sidewing works at a 25 degree angle of attack that four feet can almost always be fully utilized.
I hope that this doesn't add to you headache!

[John DiMartino]

I am getting a sidewing from Jerre,hopefully by next week:D :D .Ive been wanting one for a while now,I have a feeling im going to shave a few hrs off my route with it.

[wyldman]

I don't think a sidewing is gonna work on your truck John.Not unless you relocate the tailpipe,as you won't be able to see it. :D

[Chuck Smith]

Don't forget the ability to bench back wind rows with the wing. A Blizzard can't do that. And we should all be so lucky as to have a long sidewalk to clear like Bill, and a wing to do it with. A Blizzard can't do that. I am not knocking Blizzard, just pointing out that both plows are tools, and have thier uses.

~Chuck

[Alan]

Things were looking good for me to get a Sidewing . I've got a couple accounts that I need to pay off and it looked like loose money to put into equipment. But during the weekend storm we had a transmission start acting funny, so the Sidewing may have to get postponed for a while.

I got to see one in action at Lucky's Trailer Sales in Royalton, VT last winter, made a believer out of me. And today when I was fighting to move banks back on a private road I was REALLY thinking about it.

Of course, as it happens, the truck that will carry the wing is also the one with the limping transmission.

[EZSnow]

how heavy are 'wings, and how is it split (front/back)? I can't afford to add much weight to my front axle, as I'm already flirting wih FAWR... (flirting- yeah, right!) Looks like a sweet tool for certain types of jobs.

maybe, someday...

[Sidewing]

Hi EZsnow:

The wing and all mounting hardware weighs a little over 700 pounds. The wing itself is around 350 pounds, and all of this weight is carried from the center of the truck through to the rear axle.

One of the main benefits of Sidewing is that it adds absolutely no weight to the front end of your truck, and in fact balances the plowing forces out through the whole truck. We have weighed our truck, and with or without the wing the front axle weight is exactly the same.

Wings work, as has been long proven. The problem with the traditional front-mount wing is that it puts all of the weight of 2 plows and all of the plowing forces from those blades through the 2 front tires and front end of a truck.

This is okay for a dump truck, but very hard on lighter-duty trucks. Sidewing offers the same clearing benefits, but with a much better balance.

Hope you find this useful...

Reg McGuire
Sidewing Snowplows

[nsmilligan]

John with the sidewing and that crazy diesel, I got to see a pic of it from the rear pushing snow, oh is Jerre painting it black before you put it on?:D :rolleyes: :D


Bill

[Pelican]

Here's Mike Nelson's truck with Blizzard 8611 and Sidewing

[atgreene]

The difference between plowing with a wing, verses without is amazing. I have used one ton trucks with wings, tandem trucks and graders. There is no comparison. If you need to move snow, you need a wing. It gets it past the shoulder of the road and into the ditch where a front plow cannot get it.

I considered a sidewing, and may on my next small truck, but having a dump truck made more sense to run that with the wing, and let the little truck clean-up after me.

I'm not big on plowing parking lots, but have for the town in the past when I worked for them. The only problem with a wing in that situation was the ammount of snow gathered would eventually roll over the wing. Just had to make another pass to clean it up.

[Lawngodfather]

Originally posted by John DiMartino
I am getting a sidewing from Jerre,hopefully by next week:D :D .Ive been wanting one for a while now,I have a feeling im going to shave a few hrs off my route with it. I've seen your sidewing, whooohooo can't wait for the pics.

That one on Mike Nelson's truck looks cool to match the Blizzard.

One thing to consider with the sidewing, when you plow snow rolls back as you pass, I figure about a foot of snow roll back over to the area you just plowed, so put one on both sides............LOL

Well My use might be next year if I get this 22 miles of municipality plowing. Might be a sidewing in it for me.

[Chuck Smith]

Here is John DiMartino's bed mount installed. More pics coming soon.

~Chuck

[Chuck Smith]

Here you can see the quick disconnect Jerre installed.

~Chuck

[John DiMartino]

Thank you Chuck, you can see in the pics that Jerre relocated the motor to in between the towers where as it was in front of the forward post before.He did this to save space and get the mount tighter to the bed side.

[Jerre Heyer]

Chuck, Thanks for puttting the picts on. John I heard that the Flamers are out of work at PRO SNO's shop so maybe you can get that wing painted before the storm rolls' in.

Do you think wyldman was on to something with the black paint being unnecessary. That smoke out on the interstate should do the trick on the back of the blade.

:burnout :burnout

Jerre

[snowplowjay]

Originally posted by Jerre Heyer
John I heard that the Flamers are out of work at PRO SNO's shop so maybe you can get that wing painted before the storm rolls' in.
:burnout :burnout

Jerre


Plans are already in the works for a painting date next week :)





Jay

[nsmilligan]

Looks good John. Hope you get some snow to try it out, I'm interested in how it preforms for you. Try some different things with it, I have lots that I plow completely back-wards with the sidewing then without. I also don't retract/extend the wing plowing lots, just leave it hang out there, unless of course there are some clearance issues. It is very fast to raise/lower. I attached a pic of a small mod I made to mine I stuck reflective tape to the inside of the top moldboard. Although it's never happened I always worry about some dummy trying to pass the truck on the right not realizing it's got a wing! plowing!

Bill

[wyldman]

The reflective tape is a great idea.

Now John just needs the "smoke proof" stuff :D

[cat320]

I have a question if your pushinf heavy snow do you feel the truck straining to push that extra side weight and do you have to have the bed extremly weighted down

[John DiMartino]

Bill thank you for the tip on the reflective tape.i wil defintely do both front and back of it,since it sticks out quite a bit. Ill et you knwo how i like it once i get to use it. Any other tips you can give I would appreciate. Thanks again Johnny

[Arc Burn]

Originally posted by John DiMartino
Any other tips you can give I would appreciate.

I'm just prayin that old Dodge has enough nuts to carry all that steel down the road,let alone move any snow :D LOL! Just kiddin Johnny,i've been following the pics and threads and wish ya luck with the new set-up:cash

[nsmilligan]

cat320

There's almost no difference in the way the truck pushes with the wing out, in fact I think the truck will move more snow with it down then up, we all have experienced the front of the truck being pushed sideways(counterclockwise) with the front blade angled, since the wing is just ahead of the rear wheel it pushes on the truck clockwise, so the truck stays straighter.
Bill

[nsmilligan]

Just thought I would post a pic of the Sidewing working today. We were doing clean up, ready for the dumping tonite. I was using it to wing back the banks between the road and sidewalk, as they were getting high enough the Trackless was carrying a lot of snow, so we used the blower to get rid of it, now we can go back to using the plow which uses about 1/4 the fuel.

Bill

[nsmilligan]

This is a over a year old, but I know there's a bunch more of you guys/gals who have put a wing on, any more pics/comments?

Bill

[CPSS]

John, how about mounting a flood light in the area of the sidewing mounting attachment that would illuminate the blade. Might make it easier to see where the wing is, and also would illuminate it so other drivers could see it.

[Pelican]

LOL!

Leave it to an electrician to want more lights!:wink

John's got that covered and then some, with that new alternator he's just trying to test its capacity!

John, any pics of the lights?

[nsmilligan]

I have a spot light mounted on the rack to light the end of the wing you can see it in the 3rd post. Also I wore out my 1st u-edge on the sidewing and replaced it with a Superior edge I got thru Wyldman, have about 20-30 hrs on it now far "superior" to the old yellow edge for tearing and wear, hasn't worn a full angle in yet, on the bottom.
Bill

[WI Winterman]

Sidewings look like a fantastic investment for the right conditions!

I'm curious though:
Where does the wing go when you're driving around town to different accounts?
Does it just stow against the side of the truck?
. .(if so, how does the mount keep it away from your shiny paint?)
. .(and doesn't this add width to your truck that may be over-sized for legal road travel?)
or does the wing stow inside the box of the truck?
. .(if so, how does the mount get it up in there?)

Sorry for these (probably) silly ?'s, i'm just curious.

perhaps a pic of the wing in "travel" position would explain it to me :)

also, do you only mount the wing when your accounts need it? i guess it would make sense not to be carrying another 700# around town....
thanks fellas! :)

[Mark Oomkes]

WI Winterman, check out there website: www.sidewing.net There are some good pics, even some that look very familiar, right Bill?

[wyldman]

Originally posted by nsmilligan
I have a spot light mounted on the rack to light the end of the wing you can see it in the 3rd post. Also I wore out my 1st u-edge on the sidewing and replaced it with a Superior edge I got thru Wyldman, have about 20-30 hrs on it now far "superior" to the old yellow edge for tearing and wear, hasn't worn a full angle in yet, on the bottom.
Bill

Glad to hear the new edge is working well Bill. :D

[SNO]

Ok,
How much do they cost??

:)

[nsmilligan]

Just thought I post a pic of the gm pushing a little snow with the sidewing

Bill