is this what my 10'v will look like

[chtucker]

Ebay link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=74987&item=3870695393&rd=1

Did the guy beat on it or am I in for trouble?

Howard

[TLS]

Dear God! :(

Amazing what people will try to sell. :rolleyes:

You'd have to add $1500 worth of parts to it in order to get it to plow!

Welder my a$$ :rolleyes:

[TLS]

Did you catch what area he has it listed in? :confused:

Business & Industrial > Construction > Heavy Equipment Attachments > Buckets & Accessories > Teeth :rolleyes:

http://i3.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/4f/37/15_1_b.JPG

[chtucker]

this pic scares me more

http://i6.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/4f/91/26_1_b.JPG

[dapgar]

i think that guy doesn't know the meaning of maintainence. one of those guys that just goes full bore all the time and slams into things. ask him if he has any bumps on his forhead from when he hits his head on the windshield.
looks like the original cutting edge. not much left to it at all. look how small it gets near the center. lol.

Howard, you'll be fine. my plow is only two years old and it still looks pretty new to me. i power wash it after every storm. keep it under cover when not in use. the cutting edge is the only thing that looks worn, but not nearly as bad as that guys.
you made a good choice.

[CAMERON SERVICES]

:eek: WOW. He must of run into quite a few things to get it to look like that.

[snowplowjay]

I saw that last night on ebay and I was thinking of you Howard.....

You think thats bad you should see the truck thats parked down near one of our accounts............A mid 90's L9000 shortened single axle dump with a 10ft Boss V plow on it.........Talk about too much truck for the plow :eek:

Bill and I both commented on it when we first saw it........Ill have to snap a pic for you guys if I remember...........


Jay

[TLS]

He must have caught something while going in reverse to rip it like that.

A BOSS Vee Plow is NOT the plow to get if your going to have someone else drive your truck.

By the tone of the owners voice in the write-up, he's an armchair guy who could care less.

I'm watching this one to see what it ever goes for.

With it starting at $950 I doubt he'll even get one bid.

You'd almost have to pay me to take something that beat up. God only knows how he kept the hydraulic system (only thing that may be worth any money)

[TLS]

Also, it just irks the heck outa me what people put up on Ebay that isn't even CLEAN!

Would it have been so hard to take a hose to it? :mad:


This really bothers me. It shouldn't....but things like this just do.
:rolleyes:

[TLS]

This piece of junk actually SOLD :eek:

I actually questioned the guy as to if his auction was a joke or not. Boy did he get nasty. He acted as if it was a creampuff or something. Blabbing that it was better than whatever I had, and to not bother him as I could never afford this plow anyway :rolleyes: :mad:

I see now that he has another bent up BOSS for sale on a real beat up 1Ton dump.

I told him the hydraulics may be worth the $1K, but by looking at how he treated the plow in general, I'd steer clear.


Proves that anything will sell on eBay. ;)

[dapgar]

yeah, looks like this guy doesn't do any of the work himself. nothing is maintained, someone else was driving all of that equipment. this guy had two Boss Vs that both need major welding work done on them. i know a bunch of people with boss Vs and none of them ever needed welding on any part of the plow. and they aren't easy going when plowing either. i can't imagine what this plow has hit in it's day. someone was behind that wheel that wasn't very good at plowing, that's for sure.
those tires on that dumper aren't even close to being 90% tread left. i bet that is the original cutting edge on that plow. looks very worn. steer clear of this guy.

[CraftyBigDog]

I really hate when people act like you couldnt afford it, I usually tell them you might want to think about that statement!

[John DiMartino]

I had 2 1/2 seasons on my Boss 9'2" V,when i sold it it needed a bit of small welding. It looked like new from 6 ft away,it was when you got close you could see the damage easy.There were cracks forming,and the drivers side wing was back about 1/2 an inch further than it should have.Both agle cyl mounting points were stressed,and bending slightly.Paint was cracking off as it bent,the welds to the moldboard were starting to pull away.I might have pics somewhere still. It weighed a little in my decision to go with a blizzard 810.If the Boss was still like new i dont think I'd had been so fast to replace it.Also the main mounting beam was bent slightly. Overall, there was nothing big wrong,and it worked perfect,just a few small things,that were going to be a bigger problem if not addressed.I didnt beat the plow,I did use it commercially,and it always had a u edge on it from day one,i could imagine the damage would have been much worse with a steel edge.I have never seen a Boss look so beat as that plow on e bay.

[TLS]

John,

Had Blizzard not been invented, and you purchased another BOSS V. Do you feel you could have lessened the damage on the new one compared to your first BOSS?

I have already.

Once you know what things to look out for, and you know the consequences, you tend to plow more cautiously......At least I have found this to be true.


A BOSS V is NOT the plow to put on an employee driven truck. Which the two plows this jerk on eBay is/has sold have clearly been used. :headwall

[John DiMartino]

Tom,honestly the damage was just hard pushing. I pushed a lot of snow with it,and i pushed back some banks. I never adjusted the wing reliefs,even though they seemed to fold easy sometimes,I didnt want to increase the stress on the plow. I could have fixed all the issues in about an hr or 2 with a good mig welder. Dont forget it wasnt uncommon for my truck to weigh 10000-12000 pushing,im sure that had a little to do with it.Although i thought the 9'2" was supposed to be ok on a 3500chassis cab dually ,they gvwr about 12500 now. Im already cracking both wings on the 810,again not a big deal,just need an hr or 2 and a mig welder,and some steel to plate it.Im going to finish the season,and fix the 810 then.

[chtucker]

I have to agree with John on this one. No more/No less maintainence on the Boss vs the Blizzard. Both plows take some time. Hose tightinening, fast edge wear, pump mounting bolts, and some stress fractures on the Blizzard. Fast edge wear, edge bolts, center shoe and some fracturing of the boss, and wing springs on the Boss.

I do think that a straight edge of any manufacturer would take less.... even that 8.5 Meyer that I had. Only thing that meyer took was 1 or 2 mounting pins a week.

Haven't tried a fisher/wester V yet....

I will have to add that the Blizzard was the first one I installed. I can say that a Jerre power plow would have less down time. It was a learning experience and I could do a better job on hose routing now. I did 8 after that one.

Howard

[Ohiosnow]

TLS
A BOSS V is NOT the plow to put on an employee driven truck. Which the two plows this jerk on eBay is/has sold have clearly been used. :headwall

I friend of mine runs a a biz with 36 trucks & 4 bobcats & 30 of them are BOSS -V's & all but 2 of the 30 are employee driven trucks;) And not 1 of his look that bad after 5- yrs. :eek:
To get his guys to stop busting up equipment they have a 50% payment on all damage caused by the employee that looks like abuse :cash & reminding them every storm "you are being paid by the HOUR" :) He now has very little damage promlems ;)

[TLS]

Thats a good idea that he has. Had he not had this damage rule, I think you'd see a lot less V's in the fleet.

When properly driven and not beat, they are a great plow. In the hands of someone who doesn't care, they can quickly become scrap metal as seen in these eBay pictures.

[John DiMartino]

I think they are great plow. Ive seen a lot of them get abused hard,and still look nothing like that one on ebay!That one was just destroyed.

[TLS]

I agree,

Not only was it destroyed, but the guy has such an attitude and thinks its better than anything I have :rolleyes:

I just wonder what the guy that bought it has planned for it.

Coming from a person who personally bent up a BOSS V pretty bad, he's potentially got $2888.xx worth of hard parts needed. (2 wings, center section, T-Frame, 2 cutting edges, hinge pin).

Just wonder if the hydraulics are in decent shape? Your looking at $600 just for a pump/motor combo.

His other auction, the dump truck/plow looks to be going pretty high too. :rolleyes:

[Ohiosnow]

TLS
Thats a good idea that he has. Had he not had this damage rule, I think you'd see a lot less V's in the fleet.

Actuality I gave him the idea about 8 yrs. ago ;) when they were running almost all straight blades & most were Western & Meyer plows :eek:

I think alot has to do with YOU BREAK IT, YOU GONE PAY FOR IT :p I used to tell him he had a bunch of cowboys working for him, they could break anything :D

[chtucker]

I don't know how enforcable that rule is. I know Colorado labor law pretty well and would expect it to be the same elsewhere

You can legally only hold an employee responsible for theft or shortage. No matter HOW STUPID they act, you can not charge them the damages as an employee.

An example would be for me in the restaraunt business is someone buring 20 gallons of soup that have $50 in ingredients.

Great idea, and might put the scare into someone, but I think if those employees went to the labor board they would win.

There are other ways of doing it, make them contractors and lease the trucks to them.

I wish I could charge...

Howard

[CT18fireman]

There are rules regarding an employees uniform and/or tools given by the employer to do the job. The employees are responsible for them. I do not know all the laws but this would be a gray area I think.

[Ohiosnow]

I just talked to him & he said it maybe a gray area but no one has challenge him in court ;) He states they do sign a contract with the company & that his lawyer made the contract for him. He also said that only twice in the last 3 yrs. has anyone did damage that insurance didn't cover :cash

I've docked pay from employees for breakage & damaged that they did too :cash