Sweeper questions

[Dwan]

New thread about Sweepers. continued from http://www.snowplowing-contractors.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=57870#post57870

I am sure it is from the course stuf I pick up but it should get better service then it does. as far as a heaver material Elgin says they are also working on that but I do not feel that is the sulution I feel a baffel directing the flow of material to the center away from the edges of the tube would work better. still feel I should get better service out of the tubes though.
Why did I go with the Air Cub? well I have been trying to deal with Schwarze for 2 tyears now and not getting anyware. no fallow up on requests. Elgin has been real nice to deal with. no question when I said I needed parts under waranty they just UPS blue the next day with no charge. I also have a dealer in Anchorage and one in Seattle and Portland for parts if needed.
I am not sayinf Schwarze is any better or worse just the desition I made and I am happy with it. It does look like I paid a little more then you but I also got the shroud and a few options.
I kind of wish I would have had all the brands to test but plowing snow for a living doesn't alow me to go to pavement expo in the winter. and no other brands are around my neck of the woods. Also I have had a Elgin Pelican for 6 years and find it was a very well made machine.
Dwan

[Lawngodfather]

Dawn I read the other thread to here.

Get you a fabric hose, the rubber is disintigrating with the sand in the lots.

This should atleast tripple the life span

[tlc]

Duane

With the Schwarze sweepers they do not have baffels in the intake area of the sweeper head.

I think the material is not heavy enough.

I live 12 hrs. from Schwarze and have found them wonderful to work with. They have bent over backwards for me. Give them a call again. Ask for Dale Cantrell @ (800) 879-7933, he is wonderful and will help you i promise. Send that Elgin back!

When I first talked to Schwarze they sent a truck down (with sales rep.) for me to demo for 2 days. When I bought my second truck they flew me down and gave me a hotel untill i drove back 2 days later. I toured the factory and they "wined n dined me." I love them and more importantly thier machine is the best on the market.

They have a new model that is single engine and sweeps good. That will be my next purchase.

Call me if you want and we can talk or e-mail me with your #.

[Lawngodfather]

That's one of the services I am offering next season.

I am going to sub it out till I can get enough work to justify a truck.

I think there are a couple more sweeper guys here..

Isn't there a forum for sweepers?

[Dwan]

LGF,
Havent found any good sweeper fourms yet.


tlc,
as for your relation with Schwarze that is great but like you said you live a few hours away and I live about as far away as is posable. I am getting good service from Elgin just havn't figured out how we are going to handle this problem yet. and Elgin did about the same for me and my wife when we bought ours. I am happy with what I got sofar as I am sure you are also.
As far as a single engin design I am not sure I like that idea personaly as the vacume power should be direcly related to engin RPM so at an idle it seems it would be weeker then at a higher one. Just my thoughts.
Thanks for leetting me know how long your tubes last. if they are 10" in dia. I may try one . I will give Schwarze a call in the morning and check the dia of the tubes. i still think a baffel in the tube will help and Elgin is going to make one for me to try.
Schwarze had there chance this time and I will give them a chance again next time but I am not about to backtrack now. I have 2 Elgins and am happy with both.
I am in the market for a smaller rideon like a advance 5600 or equal which is about 4000 lb rideon for indoor parking lots, gas or diesel used

[Gregg Blair]

Gentlemen,
I have no experience behind the wheel of a street sweeper, but deal with the OEM's pretty regularly. We manufacture polyurethane wear parts for both Schwarze and Elgin, as well as Johnston, and Sweeprite.

The hose problem you are discussing seems to be a pretty widespread problem, and altough I don't have a solution or recommendation for you, I'd like to ask you about the transitions at the ends of the hoses.

We are working with Schwarze and some Schwarze equipment users to make the transitions more durable. So, I'm just asking your thoughts or input. Do you have issues with the current wear life of the steel transitions? Would you consider a polyurethane option? We are working on both a complete polyurethane replacement, or a sleeve that sits inside the existing transition which could be turned as it wears.

[tlc]

Dwane

I understand the loyalty factor. As you are, I am a loyal customer if somebody takes care of me. I hope all goes well with elgin.

As for the single engine option. I was questioning it at first as well as you are. I did a demo at the factory in October at thier annual show they call the "Round-up". It did a job as good as my 347. It runs off a hydro pump off the truck motor. It have serious power in sand and gravel, obvously it got the litter.

Good Luck!!

[Dwan]

Originally posted by Gregg Blair
Gentlemen,
I have no experience behind the wheel of a street sweeper, but deal with the OEM's pretty regularly. We manufacture polyurethane wear parts for both Schwarze and Elgin, as well as Johnston, and Sweeprite.

The hose problem you are discussing seems to be a pretty widespread problem, and altough I don't have a solution or recommendation for you, I'd like to ask you about the transitions at the ends of the hoses.

We are working with Schwarze and some Schwarze equipment users to make the transitions more durable. So, I'm just asking your thoughts or input. Do you have issues with the current wear life of the steel transitions? Would you consider a polyurethane option? We are working on both a complete polyurethane replacement, or a sleeve that sits inside the existing transition which could be turned as it wears.

I would concider a sleave that could be rotated. although the tube that wares out seems to do it eavenly all around but I have noticed the powder coat paint inside the medal portition has worn off and expect th have to do something with it within the next 2 years or so. If I was to put a sleave in it then it would be a lot less expencive to replace that instead of welding in a new tube.

Dwan