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4evergreenlawns
12-02-2004, 09:50 AM
This season I moved the 8.5 MVP ultra mount from a 03 F-450 to a 01 2500HD. The F-450 got a new Blizzard 810.

With the help of HOOT making the change was easy and not all that costly at all. However now that the plow is mounted I think it is riding too low. I have adjust the chain to raise it but than in float mode it bottoms out and lifts off the pavement. Adjust the chain back to where it was and the corner are hitting the pavement in the V when turning or going my drivewat where it NEVER hit on the F-450.

So my Question" Is there some type of adjustment in the frame of the plow for different configurations?? I already adjust the feet as they were too low and I could not get the plow to unmount. Therefore, after adjusting the feet I was thinking maybe there is an adjust to raise in mount within the frame. Looks like there are some holes for the crossbars that might be for different configuration.


BTW already have Timbrens, and up on the torsion bar but only about 2 turn I am sure there is more room there. The truck had a 8' pro unimount and it was fine.

wyldman
12-02-2004, 10:24 AM
Crank up the torsion bars another 6-8 turns.Any more than that,and you will kill the ride quality.You should be able to get another 1-1.5 inches out of it.Ballast in the rear will help some too.

After you do that,see how level the a-frame is.You may be able to move the mount up some,but I doubt it.The a-frame has got to be pretty close to level for a V.

4evergreenlawns
12-02-2004, 12:07 PM
Chris.

I will turn up the torsion bars. As for ballast I have a dump insert and a Proflo2 when empty. Then I add about 2 tons of salt for an event.

I had a leaf added to the rear. I would have to guess that empty I should be about even with what I added above.

At first I was thinking the added leaf was giving me an offset to the front but even loaded it is still to low. With the added leaf it does not drop much at all loaded.

As for ride quality. This is a full time work truck now and the only Chevy I own. When this was my daily driver and plowing was a side job I was very concerned about the empty ride and that is the only reason why I went with Chevy and gas motor too. This truck is an 01 with on 42,000 miles on it.

Not the case anymore. Now I want a pick up truck that will hanlde 12,000lbs GVW, trailer 8 months out of the year over 100 miles a day, and push snow for hours on end if needed the other 4 months. That is why the other trucks are Ford PSDs.


Thanks again. I'll get back to you on the torsion bars.

sno-mover
12-02-2004, 08:07 PM
Ron I dont know how the ultra mount it set up compaired to the fisher but on my plow there are pins that hold the headgear to the A frame ass. There are 3 holes to set the height for the a frame maybe check that area out on yours:)

4evergreenlawns
12-03-2004, 09:18 AM
Sno,

Those are the holes I am talking about. There is a cross bar and than three holes. Maybe I can move is up one setting. I take some pictures and play on call the dealer too.

Thanks

sno-mover
12-03-2004, 05:46 PM
Ron this is what it says in my fisher install sheet,

push plate height
( hole center to ground)

18-19 1/2" top
18-15 1/4"(typical) middle
15 1/4- 11 1/2 bottom

hope this helps:)

Crash935
12-03-2004, 06:26 PM
The height and configuration setting on a western Ultra- V is totally different than a fisher V.

You need to measure the height of the receiver pockets and then set the pivot plates at the correct setting depending on the height of the receiver pockets and then do a final adjustment at the rear fo the T-bar assembly with the plow on the truck.

If the dealer wont help or if you need more info, let me know and i will find the info on westerns site. I dont know if its on the public side but i can get it from the dealer side of their site.

4evergreenlawns
12-03-2004, 08:42 PM
Crash,

Thank you for your insight. I had a feeling there has to be some type of adjustment due to the many different appplications for the MVP Ultra. I will look into it some more and make a few calls to the dealer. To be honest the only thing the my local guy has told was it would be TWO weeks before he could even consider looking at it. I think he was not happy that I did the change over myself after he quote me lke $1200.00 do make the change.

If there is any way to do it myself I would like to seeing how I am sure the dealer is going to bill me something out of the world and tell me how long it took. On the other hand if it is a big job than I am more than willing to pay to get it right.

sonjaab
12-04-2004, 01:43 AM
These NBS GMs with IFS and factory plow prep. sure ride low in the nose with a plow attached ! Ballast, torsion bar adjustment and usually a set of Timbern help a lot !!!!!

Just gotta be careful stacking and not getting hung up !

Ride nice , plow fine, and NO major/any repairs !...............geo

4evergreenlawns
12-06-2004, 08:45 AM
Well just getting off the phone with my local dealer. What a great guy he is going to fax over the adjustment settings. He is still bokked out doing installs. The first open day he offered to get the work done was 12/29.

Once I have the info in my hands I will let you all know how things worked out. Pictures to follow.

sonjaab
12-06-2004, 11:43 AM
RON.............$1200 bucks to swap a plow from one truck to another ? EEEEKKKK! That guy don't need the work or thinks you have a DEEP wallet !

And I thought $733 was $pendy to swap my plow from my 01 to my 04 ! But that did include a new truck side wiring harness (GM keeps changing the headlights) with the iso. module and new plow lights and plug..............geo

4evergreenlawns
12-12-2004, 08:06 AM
Well I made the change myself.

I had to buy a few new tools but well worth it. The change was prety easy. The plow was set for a 19" reciever height on the F-450. When I measured the 2500HD the recievers were at 15".

Pulled is apart in about 20 minutes removing four nuts and bolts on each side. Fliped the plates mounted everything back up. Moved the slack stops and changes it all from Configuration 4 to Configuration 2 in about 1 hour. Also added four truns to the torsion bars for safe measure. Now the plow clears nicely.

I would have taken pictures BUT the truck blow a tranny line that was rusted all to heck in the process. Not wanting to take any chances I had the truck towed to the mech. and left the plow at the shop. Once I get it back I well get some pictures up.

Next step, what is the correct method of adjusting/seting the attack angle of the blade?? Obvisouly after making adjustments for the 4" height difference I would have to guess the attack angle will be off.

I see the four bolt and wedge plates that are used to make the adjustments just not sure what the procedure is.

I am sure someone here can get me the info I need from experience.