Treating with liquid

[Snowboy]

Could you treat a whole entire lot with liquid like these guys in the picture are doing? How cost effective would this be. I can see this beeing rather costly. I imagine this is something your client must want or that you have to sell them on with the pro's and cons if there are any. The only possible cons i can think of would be greater time to apply liquid and of course cost.

Dave.

[JCurtis]

The secret here is that the liquid works best as a pre-treatment ( before the snow) and that it prevents the snow and ice from bonding to the pavement.

The other secret is that the traffic tracks the liquid through the parking lot, helping spread the liquid throughout the parking lot.

[John P]

It definitely can be done and be cost effective,but the first problem is that the truck pictured is appling the liquid improperly.
they are using the wrong tips.
John Parker

[snowplowjay]

Originally posted by John P
It definitely can be done and be cost effective,but the first problem is that the truck pictured is appling the liquid improperly.
they are using the wrong tips.
John Parker


I agree with John.......

To efficiently do such a process you would need tips that fan the spray instead of just Pour it straight down in single strips.......


Not only does that waste the medium but also doesnt properly coat the surface being treated..............


Jay

[wyldman]

I just noticed that too.The fan nozzles work better for pre-treating.The pencil nozzles work better for getting under snow that has already fallen.

[Mark Oomkes]

Originally posted by wyldman
I just noticed that too.The fan nozzles work better for pre-treating.The pencil nozzles work better for getting under snow that has already fallen.

I'm a little confused. It looks to me like they are de-icing, in which case the pencil tip nozzles are the correct ones right?

We use pencil tip nozzles for anti-icing and de-icing, it has worked well for both for us. When anti-icing, we try to apply during the day so the traffic helps us. Also, from our experience, Caliber tends to migrate into the area in between where the nozzles spray. Are we doing something wrong, or does Magic not migrate as well?

[Snowboy]

Here are a few video clips of the applications (http://www.eco-solution.net/news.html)

Dave.

[snowplowjay]

Originally posted by Mark Oomkes
I'm a little confused. It looks to me like they are de-icing, in which case the pencil tip nozzles are the correct ones right?



If they are de-icing YES those are the correct tips that I would say to use..........


If they are pre-treating (which I interpreted that picture to be them spraying a dusty parking lot (i didnt think that was snow)) then I would recommend the Fan tips to get optimal coverage...


Jay

[Snowboy]

My eye's could be fooling me but I think they are treating after a snow cleanup and not a dusty parking lot. The lot is brown because the product they use is derived from the sugar beat.

[Mark Oomkes]

I was looking at the snow piles and assumed it was the remnants of plowing. I could be mistaken, though.

I'm still curious about the 'migration' that we have witnessed with the Caliber. Even without traffic it will fill in the areas in between the nozzles. Magic doesn't do this?

[szorno]

But, I been wrong beforeThis is our first year using all Caliber. We use a fan type spray but with an anti-drift nozzle. Don't want the spray flying down the block. Mark- we have always used fan for pre-treat and dual-pencil point nozzles for post-treat and ice work. I would think that the pre treat with the stream or pencil nozzles would depend too heavily on traffic to carry it around. Yes there is some natural movement as it diffuses across dry or damp pavement. I just don't think I would trust it to spread adequately in my lower traffic areas.
As for the pci above, it looks like a pre-treat on some ground with a lot of loose dirt using pencil nozzles. Not a good idea to my way of thinking.:rolleyes: but I been wrong before.