Help Commercial Lot Pricing Upatate, NY

[Dnipro Max]

HI, I'm bidding on this commercial lot with 3 stores on it, lot its self is 600'x325' that everything, has sidewalks next to buildings, and parking lots, what the prices? per push, per hour, per season, and also whats the salting prices, they want everything include snowplowing, shawoling, and salting, Some body help me with this, i'm new to this, Thanks in advance,
Vitaly

[Dnipro Max]

Its in the City, also its in the corner of two streets, is city responsible for sidewalk around it next to streets? three building on it all separated, and apart from each others, it has this metal posts on lot around kinda dividing each building away from each other lots and roads, lot is 600'x325' building are 105'x275', 100'x40', 100'x70', also there is drive thure on one building, i thing about 750' of sidewalks next to buildings, i think that u can put snow in the back since there is not much going there, only loading dock, what are the prices if i need to get loader to stack and/or haul snow out? and whats better to charge per hour or per trip? any body more prices? thanks a lot
Vitaly

[wyldman]

It will take you about 4-5 hours to plow it in a 2-3 inch snowfall.You will also need anywhere from a ton to 2 tons for salt,depending on conditions.

Can't help you with the hourly rates,as you will have to find out what the going rate is in your area.

Once you get that,then it's easy to calculate a seasonal price.Take the average number of 2" snowfall events in your area,times your price per 2" push.

Don't forget to add a blizzard clause.

[Dnipro Max]

Thanks, Chris, Any other suggestions?

[snowjoker]

Like Chris said, take the number of 2 inch snowfalls, probabbly 20 or so. Depends on the good old Lake Effect machine. Definately add an excessive snowfall clause to the contract in that area. As for charging well per hour for a pickup would be more profitable than per trip. If you are going to do it per trip I would make that plow wider so you are there not as long (pro-wings) .

[Lawn Lad]

Will they be willing to sign a multi year contract? Figure your average snow fall on the third year, charge more for a one or two year contract (figure more snow fall events) since you don't know how much it's going to snow one year to the next.

An all inclusive seasonal contract price can be risky for you since your obligated to provide a whole lot of service without knowing how much its going to snow.

How frequently will you be salting relative to plowing? Will they expect you to salt before your 2.0" trigger? If so, under what conditions? Depending on their expecations, budget and how you sell it, you might have salt to plow ratio of 2 apps to each plowing. If you get 25 pushes, that is 50 saltings.

I also figure the walks will be done once or twice more than plowing.

[wyldman]

Lawn Lad is pretty much correct.We average 20 or so events,with 40-50 salt apps per year.This can fluctuate from year to year,so be prepared to ride it out long term if doing seasonal work.

[Dnipro Max]

Thanks, guys, i'll get more info from them on monday, I would want per push contract, i thing is would work out best for me, any one has any prices, opinions help me out, thanks
Vitaly