Your shop????

[Prosno]

I know its been asked before but its been some time now and things change soooooooooo,,,,, Lets see your shops! I will take some pics of mine tonight but lets see what you have going.

[Mike Fronczak]

On the subject of shops. How far from your customer base is yours? The town is starting to get on my case again, so were starting to look for either storage space of a shop. Thanks.

[JohnnyU]

I'm in a sort of tight spot. I was in a really nice shop, but the landlord (My uncle) got an offer he couldn't pass up... So I'm sort-of wihtout a shop now. I'm looking for just a small 2 stall garage with a little parking around it. They're kinda hard to come by!

[cat320]

I think there will be alot of dream garages described here lol

[PSDF350]

no garage:( someday i will, but for now everything is done in driveway:( :(

[snowplowjay]

OH I LIKE THIS POST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I know the guy who keeps Bill's shop in tip top shape :D.............very nice fella and a snow nut too....................:rolleyes: ;)




1eye1


Jay

[atgreene]

I'm in the process of building a 42' long by 42' deep pole barn, with 13'6" header heigth. It has 3 14' wide bays to hold all my plowing equipment. Even with the wing on the 'kick, I'll be able to have the excavator, lowbed, loader, and both p/u trucks under one roof. Ordering the trusses next week. Hopefully have the metal roof on by Fryeburg Fair time, just as the first fluries start.

[sno-mover]

:( no pict yet anyone :p

[wyldman]

I will post some pics of the shop in the next few days,as well as a few from our previous ones.I will have to dig them up and scan them,as they aren't digital.

[atgreene]

My digital has outsmarted me. Either that, or the spyware that Kodak was nice enough to build into their easyshare software conflicts with my adaware blocking software. Either way, I don't have pics yet.

[Prosno]

Havent put up pics yet I'm workin on it, been having some problems getting the new truck and it looks like I'm getting a usewd 350 and telling ford motor co. where to go. Soooooooo I'll be working it out another way .

[sno-mover]

Originally posted by Prosno
Havent put up pics yet I'm workin on it, been having some problems getting the new truck and it looks like I'm getting a usewd 350 and telling ford motor co. where to go. Soooooooo I'll be working it out another way .

Why what happened:(

[Prosno]

Bottom line about 7 months after my wife passed my book keeper stole 86,000.00 from my business. She did this by forging checks and bouncing some very big checks along the way. Some bills were paid late by her and In turn it erroded my credit and I never knew it until I went to buy a new truck. So now I have hired a person to straighten out my credit and gather all the documentation. In the meantime I found a nice 350 diesel dump reasonable..... sooo I'd rather spend 14,000 than over 50,000 its just a disapointment, but this too shall pass.

[Lawngodfather]

Inside

[Lawngodfather]

Outback


Don't have an out front

[Lawngodfather]

Satilite bin

Don't have a pic of the other one, soon I will

[sno-mover]

Originally posted by Prosno
Bottom line about 7 months after my wife passed my book keeper stole 86,000.00 from my business. She did this by forging checks and bouncing some very big checks along the way. Some bills were paid late by her and In turn it erroded my credit and I never knew it until I went to buy a new truck. So now I have hired a person to straighten out my credit and gather all the documentation. In the meantime I found a nice 350 diesel dump reasonable..... sooo I'd rather spend 14,000 than over 50,000 its just a disapointment, but this too shall pass.

Wow:eek: I'm very sorry to hear. On a lighter note whats the specs on the new truck:)

[atgreene]

Here it is. Started making more progress today. Start laying the second floor boards this week so we can do rafters next week.

It's 28' x 42' with an additional 14' x 42' overhang on the rear.

Also, has 3 13'6" high doors 13' wide. The two right bays will have a rear second floor approximately 10', the rest will have a second floor attic. Those two lower mows are set-up so I can use the forks on the kubota palletize tools etc... and put them up there for storage.

[atgreene]

Another later in the day.

[chtucker]

Here is mine (Sold the Jeep and the Bronco is down below after paint)

[chtucker]

Bronco now looks like this

[atgreene]

Got the 2nd. level floor almost all boarded. Hope to start on the upper level tomorrow and then the rafters. Slow working alone 14' up.

[atgreene]

Second floor done, third level partly boarded.

[atgreene]

Another, lifting the boards to the 2nd. level.

[cat320]

How long before you get all water tight?

[atgreene]

If I can finish the floor this week as time allows, I'll set rafters early next week and get it all straped. I hope to have the metal roof on by Nov. 1. I still have to set 3 more 6x6 PT posts for the rear shed lean-to, but that isn't as urgent as the main body.

[atgreene]

BTW, I still have to build the kneewalls as well. These will give me more attic space.

[festerw]

Here is a few of ours, the second one were reorganizing for winter so that why it's so big of a mess.

http://www.dodgetrucks.org/gallery/data/500/1824PA250002-med.JPG

http://www.dodgetrucks.org/gallery/data/500/1824PA250004-med.JPG

[grasshopper]

Here is my shop, not big enough by far, all it is good for is storage, I can't get a whole truck in. I am planning on building a much larger building hopefully next year. It will be big enough to store all the equipment, as well as two trucks with plows mounted.

[VALLEYWIDEPA]

aahhh my dream shop is

1st floor will have 3 bays for all equipment and supplies. also contain an office, bathroom and a bedroom with 2 bunk beds so workers can sleep from a long shift of plowing

2nd floor will have a large room encompassing half the building that will be used as a lounge, bathroom & kithen with a beer meiser and a deck

[Got Grass]

As some of you may remember I had my garage floor rebuilt.
Live in a hillside ranch & there is a room below the garage.
Room below is now used for only storage. Small power equip, mowers, snow blowers, scrap, etc...
Not the best of pictures & still a mess but ba get the point.... Taken with camera phone.

Before 1/2 garage:

[Got Grass]

oops

[Got Grass]

after:

[Got Grass]

before

[Got Grass]

after

[atgreene]

Todays progress.

[atgreene]

Getting closer

[SNO]

My new shop as of this year.

[SNO]

Back

[SNO]

I just noticed something....

What happened to my senior member status?

Now posts shows 16?

Does this now reset every year?

[Lawngodfather]

You aint been here enough Brian

[CPSS]

Our shop

[CPSS]

Our welding area

[CPSS]

Another view, note the monorail overhead winch.

[tlc]

My building and soon to be added-on-to.

[Ecurb]

In the summer time. What a mess. Need bigger for toys as working on plow truck in driveway not fun anymore.

[snonut12]

atgreene, I'm sure you've made some more progress since your last post. Pics please! :D

[Ole JIM]

I looked at the Shops--& I went back in my Mind--to many yrs AGO!--when I first started--working out-side!--YEH the good Ole FUN DAYS?--as having a SHOP kinda Snuck UP on ME!--It all Started way Back When--I used to Remove the Batteries on Cold winter Nights--& put E*M near the Stove--so I could Start things!--first Big purchase--a Battery Charger--as it wasn*t very Big & placed in the living room--next was the TOP of a Tool Chest--& a Plastic tub w/Cover--throw in tool Box?--Hunt & Dig--Now the Problem?--a 600 Ford Wrecker--& Two Plow Trucks--& During Snow storms--a lot of Cleaning Snow off every thing!--Cleared some Land--cutting trees & leaving 3 ft of Stumps--Winter--used the 600 wrecker to Pull those Stumps--Spring--Borrowed a CO Dozer & leveled my LOT--2 ft of Gravel--Leveled--Complaments of the CO I worked For!--NIGHTS!--installed my Floor Forms--6 inches--Ordered my Cement--one Satuday--all My HELP never showed UP!--"I & the Cement Driver Poured my Floor--12 yards--started at 7 AM--& was Trouling until 10 PM--& finally got it DONE!--WHEW!--Tired & Filty--Thew my Clothes Away!--24 X 30 ft floor--& it took All Summer getting the walls UP!--12 ft Posted--an Ole Carpentor freind Built My Rafters--any of YOU ever put UP 24 ft Rafters Alone?-- as It takes some DOING! now I*LL tell YA!--Rafters UP!--a Week Later--& putting that First 4 X 8 Plywood On that Roof!--I had thoughts of Not being able to Do IT?-- but--once I had a Walking Space the Rest was a lot Easyer--many trips UP & Down that LADDER!--Tired a Rope on each 4X8 & pulled E*M UP!--& Finished One Side that DAY!--next DAY same Deal--& Behold--that week End the plywood was ON!--next week End-Boxed in the Ends!--installed the Roof Trim Nights--Ordered my Tar Paper & Shingles & Edgeing--another Week End of Hammering--week nights I Lugged Shingles UP & laid E*M Out--in Bundles--Help to hold the Tar Paper--if We did have any WIND!--Working 12 to 16 hours a DAY!--on my JOB--& fall Came & Went!--I remember shoveling my Roof OFF--Twice Getting the Shingles Down!--It Was UP!--Canvus in the Doors--as SNOW came!--I built a Wood Stove out of a couple of 55 Gal Drums--One on Top of each Other--30 odd yrs AGO!--& it Still works Good--the OverHead Doors one 12 ft & one 10 ft--came yrs Later!--One Window Up High--& a Fan on the other Side down Low--I made my steel Work bench & Motor Crane--transmission Jack & Wheel Stands--& when my so Called BUDDIES?--that Never Showed UP!-ask to Use My GARAGE?--I*M Not a Bit Ashamed to Reply NO!--& ADD Build your OWN--its EASY!--I DID!--& some of YOU?-may think? I*M a {--- ----!!**?--but--I don*t care!--as where were They?--when I needed them??--& they Promised!--Yeh RIGHT! Take CARE--Ole JIM_--

[atgreene]

Snonut, actually, rather pathetically, we have not. My crew has been busy building a fire station and with 27" of rain since April 1, we couldn't work on it in the spring. I've been assured by my crew that they will get it done this fall.

[Dwan]

26' deep and 56' wide 4 bays, 1 single and 3 in 1, 9000# lift, air, 230V 3 phase, small bathroom w/shower, and 1 automatic door. on single side. stall 1 is suspose to be the clean room, stall 2 has the lift, stall 3 short turm projects and stall 4 long term projects. I want to add another stall for washing and spray painting with an air handling unit. Shop is heated with waste oil wihch I am paid to collect.
Like old Jim I have done it in the rain/snow to many times and not that I have what I want I even wax the lower sides of my trucks on the lift. That way I dont have to bend over, LOL.

[atgreene]

The crew has returned!:zoom

We finished the rear rafters and started on the front with the main body of the building. Here's one earlier today. Folowed by the 2nd. floor stairs after installation. And one of the first rafters being set.

[John Banks]

Good pics. A question though...did you set your ridge and rafters before you framed and stood up the gable walls?

[atgreene]

And the view with the moon as we finished for the day. 11/12 pitch on the front, 5/12 on the rear. Snow should slip off there like a politician on Meet The Press.

I'm ordering some more rafters tomorrow, as well as the metal roofing. With any luck, most of the crew will return on next Sunday.

[atgreene]

Yes we did. The gable walls will be easy, we'll probably just build them in place. That last pic looks alot better in full screen. I didn't realize it would be so dark and so small. I'll get a better one tomorrow in the light.

[cat320]

Lightened it up

[atgreene]

Thanks. I thought I had lightened it enough, but obviously not. I'm still learning the photoshop thing.

[Plow Babe]

How many of you started off with a shop or garage from the very beginning? We have had a shop for two years. For the ten years before that, Steve did all the vehicle work outside, in all kinds of weather. We had a small storage shed to keep tools in, but that was it. We were just talking last night how our guys are spoiled, having a shop to work in, even to bring their personal rigs into to work on (company benefit).

Sorry, no pics, but our shop is about 1500 sf. It has one oversize bay door, room for two rigs deep and two side by side. There is a tool room with shelves and an office up front, with loft storage area above them. Oh, and a bathroom. We lease the shop. We hope to be able to buy our own shop when our lease is up. Commercial real estate (or, as the town classifies our usage, Industrial) is in short supply here, and really expensive. They won't allow us to build a shop where our house is. We could put up a garage, but no oversize bay doors, and no business use.:headwall

[Dwan]

No oversize bay doors? how big is oversize? and who determans the size as oversize? If I have a motorhome then a 10' x 12' is not oversize. same for a boat. Tractors require a larger door then the typical Suv. A 3/4 ton 4x4 won't fit in most new garage doors because they are about 6" to 10" to tall.

[Plow Babe]

Neighborhood covenants. Nothing over 8' tall or wider than 2-car garage. Some of the neighborhoods here won't even allow a truck with any company logos on it to park in the driveway overnight.

[cat320]

Sounds like Florida they don't let any type of commercial truck park in a driveway .

[Dwan]

Another reason I live in Alaska

[Pickering Snow]

There are alot of rules concerning zoning with shops i have a very diff situation my house is 1 block from the old shop which back when my dad built it the zoning was diff after i bought the house and shop from my mom in 86 the grandfather clause allowed me to contiue. The city right know is trying to pass a ord for no company lettered trucks to be parked at a resi come on !!! i always have something setting at the house has i need to beable to leave from here to go.

Cats right about FLA no trucks period were my inlaws condo is in Naples which is fine by me another great reason not to visit.:D

[atgreene]

I know all about working outdoors. My entire life and growing-up on a farm, I and the rest of my family has worked on equipment and vehicles outdoors. Even now, this will be the first garage in the family. It sure will be nice.

We made some more progress today. 3 fire fighters came over for a couple hours and we got 10 or 12 rafters set and finished the ridgepole. Strapped what we did on the front and did some more bracing.

[apgarconstruction]

i've never had a real shop to work out of. my parents had a one car garage at their house, growing up there. and it was packed full of stuff and very rarely did a car ever pull in there. everything was done in the stone driveway, but many years ago, it was paved, while i was still living there, so it got better. unless something broke, you didn't work on much during the winter.
now that i'm married and living in my own house, i can't wait to have a garage built here, or at another house if we sell this one.
we have 3 acres, so i have plenty of land. the townships don't really want you having a business inside these shops, but you just don't state that that's what it's purpose is. i think the max is 750 sq ft, anything bigger you need a variance from the township and your neighbors which costs a lot but can be done.
i'd love a 36x48 shop so that everything can be inside. right now i have two sheds on the property. one is for my mower and anything i don't use that often, like heaters, water pumps etc. the bigger shed in the driveway is big enough for a car but i use it for my construction stuff that i use all the time. ladders and everything are kept along side the larger shed.
i hope in the next few years, i can build one here, just finding the time to work on it is the hardest part, really not the cost of it.
i'd love to do one on block foundation though, not a pole barn style.
2x6 walls, and a bunch of windows. and a leanto on the side with sliding doors for landscaping equipment and other stuff.

can't wait to see the finished project atgreene.

[atgreene]

More Progress!!!! The rafters were finished 2 weekends ago with some volunteer help, and we finished strapping this weekend. I also got one wall studded in Sunday, and today my brother and father helped with the other wall and metal roofing. All the roofing should be completed tomorrow!:) I'll get some pics of it in better light tomorrow.

[gumbygold]

atgreen. nice looking design. whats a shop like that gonna run you just in materials?? if you don't mind.

[atgreene]

I haven't totaled it all up, but somewhere around $10,000.00 The roofing was $2400.00, the rest of the expense was just the lumber. I did all the groundwork, and have more to do, the labor was all friends and family conned into helping.:)

We finished the roof yesterday, it was 24 degrees and blowing a 25 mph gale. 18' sheets of roofing in a stiff wind is some fun.:rolleyes:

[Robh]

Heres a crappy pic of my shop. Its not the best setup but the bathroom in the middle of the shop really is in a bad spot. But we do well with the sq footage that we have.....Rob

[pelletman]

The garage at my last house on Cape Cod was 40 x 80 with 40 x 60 of mezannine upstairs. I built my offices upstairs, with a kitchen and full bath (made it so it could be an apartment if I left). It was a Space building with white cedar shingles on the outside. I loved that garage and I miss it very much. It was about 10 years old at the time. I had one probably 14' overhead door in the big bay and two 9' doors in two other bays. The house is on the market and the stupid realtors downplay the garage. It is what sold the place to me and it is what sold the place to the guy who bought it from me. They barely mention it in the ad. He paid 1.5 million three years ago. If anyone wants the nicest garage they have ever seen, go make an offer. Cape property is dead and he is probably not thrilled paying the mortgage as he is not even living at the house now. Here are the links

http://www.realtor.com/Prop/1051901195

http://www.prupremierproperties.com/display.php?passedProperty=20505496

[Ecurb]

atgreene thats one nice shop. I can smell the wood from here. You know the guys at the cat dealer? Good friend is building on sebago somewere and is the manager at Cat.

[atgreene]

The only one I've dealt with at Cat is Craig Hoffses. I don't do much business with them, so I don't know of any of the folks there.

[atgreene]

More Progress!!! Poured the first bay yesterday. 7.5 yards of 4000lb crete. 14 x 28' bay with 360 feet of rebar, fiber re-enforced concrete 4" thick in center, 8" on front and 6-7" on other edges. And yes, I want to park a Mack truck on it.:)

[cat320]

Alan did you put plastic down to keep any moister from comming up thru the concrete?

[atgreene]

A few more. I would have taken some of the actual pour, but the mixer was 15 minutes early and I was all alone. My crew failed to materialize other than a quick stop in by my father, so it was a little hectic. Not to mention the rented power trowel wouldn't start.:mad:

Other than that it was a quiet day!

Today I started on the walls. As you can see, I'm not a carpenter or a concrete guy. The wall crossmembers are 2 x 8's and will make nice shelves.

[snowplowjay]

Looking great ALAN...

Won't be long till you guys see the flakes flying up that way :D


Jay

[atgreene]

:huh I'm looking for opinions. Overhead doors, or my preference, sliding doors. Anyone had any experience with sliding door installation and or problems? I'm thinking 3 sliding doors on 2 tracks, the center door on the outer track and slightly wider to overlap the two other doors. I'll only be able to open 2 bays at a time but I don't see that as a problem. The doors would be approximately 12' 6" wide and 11' tall, double layer 1" pine shiplap.

The c channel type overhead rail system seems like the way to go, but anyone with any experience I would appreciate your experience good or bad. Thanks.

And Cat 320, sorry, missed your post, no I didn't. I have never done any plastic under concrete in the last 10 years. Nobody does, not sure if the theory changed or people just stopped doing it.

[cat320]

Alan i would not do a floor with out it at least it helps block ground moister from comming thru especially if you have stuff stored on top of it .All they guys complain about it because it takes for ever for the cement to cure.

On your question over head or slidder i would go overhead insullated with maybe some insulated windows for light, sliders may be cheaper especially if you will make them up yourself but i would go with overhead especially if you plan on heating her in the winter if you have to do repairs.

[atgreene]

Some more progress. Worked till dark this evening and got alot more of the wall completed and the door and window framed. I've opted for sliding doors all around.

[snowplowjay]

That looks great Alan...

What a sharp looking barn you are going to have there...

LOTS of space :D


Jay

[Bugthug]

The poles were set for my garage last week and hopefully trusses tomorow. It is 30x48 x12 with 2 9 x 10 doors. pictures will be posted soon.

[atgreene]

Trusses are the way to go on a pole barn. It's taken a lot more time to do it this way, but I do have a lot more space. I may have been better off going larger rather than up, as I would have been done by now.

[Bugthug]

My pole building so far.

[atgreene]

Nice! It's a slow process, but the effort is worth it.

[AL Inc]

Nice progress, atgreene, that is going to be a great shop when you are done. Man, I would love to have a barn like that someday. Until then, I'll be working out of storage containers. Good luck, the hard work will be worth it! Mike

[atgreene]

I need to plan a party when I get done, maybe we'll do a M& G in the fall if I get it in gear and finish before snow!

[atgreene]

:waving I have a WALL! It's amazing how little things make me happy.

[cat320]

closeing in those walls gives ya warm feeling ,well it will this winter. lol

[PSDF350]

Alan if I may whats the reason for doing the walls that way. I like it alot. But was just curious.

[Pelican]

I'm betting it's cosmetic. Looks good!

[PSDF350]

Thats what I figuired Steve. But just checking. I do like the way it looks like that, so it works.

[Wizard]

Now I gotta clean the drool off my keyboard again... I really like the way your new shop is coming along, I've very jealous! Keep the pictures coming!

[atgreene]

Thanks guys!

By laying the shiplap boards at 45 degree angles it locks the post from moving. Poles that tall naturally have movement, as any building does. Without plywood, the next best way to secure it is to do 45's and nothing will wiggle. There's almost 1000 bf of pine on that one end. Luckily there's a mill nearby that sells those boards as planer regects for $275 per 1000 bf. If you catch them right, you can get some decent stuff.

I still have to typar it and side it, probably with board and batten or maybe clapboards like the house. If we get ambitious at the fair this year demonstrating the shingle mill, I may have enough shingles to do it. We'll have to see.

I'm going out to work in my barn, it's raining,but I'll be inside!!!!:wink

[Pickering Snow]

Looks really nice Alan the part i like the most is the fact you have the ceiling open and built rafters i think that space will come in handy down the road one always fines a way to fill a building lol.


I would really love to have the roof pulled from my house garage and have gambrel roof built to allow for the upper levels like you have honestly you have room for a office or upstair apartment with yours i really like it.

[atgreene]

I've already got 300 + bales of hay op there on the North end. These pics are of the South end. Really makes good use of the space, now I need to build a steel beam and trolley with a small elevator platform to lift everything up there.

[atgreene]

Ran the water line and power today. 1-1/4" 160 psi 250' and 2/0 100 amp service to feed the barn. What a royal pita. Had a buddy of mine come up and run the machine while I worked the idiot spoon. The cable and another conduit will run up through the next slab to be poured, while the water line is routed into a well tile that we will cover and pour up to. I was only able to get 3 1/2 feet in some places in the ditch due to ledge so I insulated here and there. Elsewhere we went for 5' where we could get it. It may still freeze, but it's not critical if it does.

[atgreene]

Progress! Poured the center bay today. Got the 100 amp electrical panel hooked in, still have to wire it into the house panel.

[atgreene]

Here's what linseed oil and diesel fuel look like as a floor sealant. They used to use it on bridge decks in Maine before the enviormental laws brought it to a stop.

[Snowboy]

Here's what linseed oil and diesel fuel look like as a floor sealant.

Anyone got a light for my smoke? :grinz

I'm sure it smells nice as well. Why that concoction and will it not smell and or collect dirt of dust and track on your boots everywhere u go?

Dave.

[atgreene]

It was always considered the best treatment for concrete by all the old time bridge and road guys around here. It dries out after a day or so and the smell disipates after a week or two.

Not to mention, it's cheap.

[BRUNSWICK CONCRETE]

Diesel will make the calcium carbonates in concrete break down in time and cause spalling . Linseed oil mainly stains the surface to give it a richer look. But it does not promote curing or sealing in anyway. Proper curing and sealing gives the floor more strength and longevity.

Visit or call your local A.H. Harris store and pick up the correct material.You will thank me later......trust me.

http://www.ahharris.com/locations/portland.htm


http://www.symons.com/products/brochure/chemical/03cs.htm

[atgreene]

Were gaining again. Poured the final front bay Wednesday. 12.5 yds of crete, my concrete guy showed up near the end to give me a hand with finishing.

Bought 2500 bf of shiplap pine boards and started putting those up to finish closing it in. Tomorrow I have a rented man lift and a few guys coming over to board it all in and begin the doors.

WOO HOOO!

Sorry for the bad pic, can't find my digital camera so I'm stuck with the camera phone.

Brunswick, thanks for the heads up. I've been doing some checking, but can't find any info either way. May go to Thompsons water seal for now till I can figure out what is best.

[atgreene]

I found my camera! Lots of pics that have been missing for a few weeks have been re-found! Went to put on my fire gear today for a fire and low and behold, camera was in the toe of my leather's!

Anyway, heres a couple of the progress we've made in the last few weeks. All boarded in, one door is built, top windows are in, 3 more doors to build and furnace to hook-up. It's getting closer. Also, sealed the floor with Thompsons today in the right hand bay. Buddy of mine showed up and hauled 3 loads of scrap steel from the yard, finally making some room after all the modifications from equipment etc....

[snocrete]

very nice building, congrats. I would take brunswick's advice, he is completely right about what he said. Sealer wouldn't cost you much for a floor that size, its well worth it!! And just a piece of info on the comment made by cat320, if anyone decides to pour concrete on plastic all you have to do is bump up the air content a bit to compensate for the extra moisture thats coming up through the floor when finishing/curing. The batch man will know how much to do according to the area your in and the type of floor your pouring.

[snocrete]

I started out in my 15ft by 24ft garage. After about 6 months I got a 10ft by 30ft rental unit to help out with growing bus. Last month I bought a 1 acre piece of property with a 24ft by 40ft pole barn on it. This is going to help me out tremendously. Over the winter I plan to transform the building/property to accomodate my needs and get rid of the rental in the spring.

[Chuck Smith]

Signed lease and got key yesterday. Floor got painted last night. Stopped by today to have a look, and drop off some shelving I got free from a local LUK Oil gas station. One was a Hostess rack. My brother asked if we will be selling Twinkies, LOL. Shelving is not cheap, so I gladly took the HD commercial racks.

First shot is looking in the front door. Straight ahead is a double basin laundry sink. The boxed in section is the bathroom. Hot water heater is in there too. All new fixtures, and HW heater too. Nice patterned ceramic tiled floor. they must have had leftovers from a restoration job...The Modine propane fired heater is less than a year old. Shop measures 18.5' wide, and 51' deep. Looks small in the pics, and I am sure it will feel small too, soon enough. The conduits on the ceiling used to have 3 phase drops for the machine shop. They are still hot too. No use for them right now, but they are there.

Second pic is my back to the electric panel, facing the front. You can see the garage door on the left. Straight ahead where the double window is now, we are installing a 9' x 9' door. There will also be a 7.5' x 12' office against the right wall in this pic, with a parts counter and a low wall to keep customers corraled up front. We'll have the Twinkie rack, I mean a rack full of common parts behind the counter. The wood bench on the left is getting cut into 3 smaller benches, and two are being moved to the right wall in the pic. We will have a steel bench on the left side for welding.

Third pic, garage door on my right looking to the back.

~Chuck

[snowplowjay]

Looking good Chuck!!!

Can't wait to see pics when everythings in place and up and running :)


ROAD TRIP :D


Jay

[Dwan]

Chuck,
9x9 door when you add trim becoums 8'6" wide so you will have t fold mirrors up on some trucks to get them through it. if there is any way you can go a little wider you will Sure aprecioate it later

By the way it ani't a shop till there is a little grease on the floor.

You have real good lighting with the walls painted white I like that.
and it looks like there might just be enough room for that aircompreasure over top of the bathroom.

[cat320]

looks nice and clean ,for now anyways lol

Is there any room for expantion when ya get going in maybe a year?

[Chuck Smith]

... it looks like there might just be enough room for that aircompreasure over top of the bathroom.

Actually, previous tenant had a great idea. There is a shed out back against the wall with an air line coming in, and a 2" PVC pipe for the power cord. Having the compressor outside will make things much quieter. I like the idea. I guess in the summer I will just have to open the doors on it so it will run cooler. Might make other mods to the shed too.

~Chuck

[John DiMartino]

Actually, previous tenant had a great idea. There is a shed out back against the wall with an air line coming in, and a 2" PVC pipe for the power cord. Having the compressor outside will make things much quieter. I like the idea. I guess in the summer I will just have to open the doors on it so it will run cooler. Might make other mods to the shed too.

~Chuck
Where i used to work,we put it outside,and ran amsoil in the compressor,so it wouldnt grunt so bad on real cold days,great idea. The shop looks great Chuck!

[90plow]

Shop looks good Chuck. I guess I missed something along the way, but what are you doing with the garage? You said something about a counter, just wondering what your selling again sorry for missing it along the way.
-Eric

[Chuck Smith]

http://www.letstalksnow.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14346

Plow parts and plow service will be the main focus, as well as all the goodies for plow trucks and plowers. I'll take it from there. The big hold up right now is the garage door. The Landlord's father passed away last night, so that will delay things even more. I was hoping to have a door on by now when I signed the lease. Right now I am not even sure if it was ordered.

~Chuck

[Plow Dak]

Good luck to you Chuck...

Hope the place gets nice and dirty from all the work your going to be doing.

[atgreene]

Chuck, looks good!

[90plow]

Congrats on the new buis. The area could use a good blizzard dealer...

[strongmd]

We bought the small cape in the picture 3yrs ago, started building the garage 2yrs ago and finished paving a year ago. The small cape is rented out to a doggy daycare and we run our landscaping & plowing business out of the rest of the property.

[90plow]

Wow very nice setup you have there. Where are you located?

[atgreene]

A couple pics from today. Front doors are up and working. Still need the side door to be built and put the windows in the front doors. At this point I'm just pushing to get the Topkick wing and plow set-up. Sander went on the other day, rewired the leds today, wing and front plow and plow lights will be done tomorrow, then it's onto oil changes and some maint.

[cat320]

Alan it's got to feel good to be out of the weather now. do you have any heat for inside there planed?

The topKick looks like it fits very well inside.

[cat320]

We bought the small cape in the picture 3yrs ago, started building the garage 2yrs ago and finished paving a year ago. The small cape is rented out to a doggy daycare and we run our landscaping & plowing business out of the rest of the property.


That is a good use for seperators . using those 40' sea containers. how will they hold up with dirt and moister against them ?

[atgreene]

I've got a Kerr 140000 btu wood furnace for now. Need to run the chimney pipe, probably this week. Still needs soffits and ceiling insulation before I can heat too much, but it's better than a blue tarp!

[strongmd]

The shipping containers have been fantastic so far. They're actually cheaper per sq ft of face than the mafia blocks/runoff blocks that we were previously using as bin dividers. On top of it, we get a garage in between each pile of mulch. They've only been there for 9 mos now and I bought them used. Time will tell how well they'll hold up. I'm optimistic.

[atgreene]

Did you paint them or treat them in any way? Any problems with moisture inside with material against the outside? Wonder how they'd work with sand? Makes for a neat way to organize materials. You could really get wild and put one of those canopy/tents on the containers to cover a pile between them.

[wfd44]

Wow Alan, you have made great progress since I was up there this summer. Glad to see the good iron under cover too (Topkick and Ghetto). I wish I could come up with a way to have a good sized shop close by. So many things I would like to take on as side jobs (auto electrical, small engine work, truck accessory install) but they all require space and are frowned upon in a residential zone (I know, not a problem out in the willywags) but I can't leave the city just yet too many other commitments (much to my wife's disgruntlement).

[digit]

Just getting my overhead doors put in my shop now. Finally have most of the outside done except a few pieces of trim. One of these days I will post some pictures I started with the site work early summer and have been trying to do most of the work myself when ever I can except I had a bunch of the neighbors and friends the day we set trusses to help then I had a local contractor help for a few days.
The size of my building is 56' wide 88' long 16' high with 16'x20' piece out the front. Some day I want to finish out the small piece for office and a 36'x48' for shop the rest will be for storage.

[atgreene]

Warning: Not only am I not a carpenter, I am most definitely NOT a finish carpenter. That being said, my brother is, and he showed me how to do the soffits. Despite my best efforts, they came out pretty well. The recessed lights were a ROYAL PITA. All the inner trim boards had to be slotted for each door track hanger (every 2 feet x 42').:fuming Didn't realized that when I hung the doors (see above).

Anyway, 10 hours and lots of adult language and I managed to do the ebtire front of the barn and wire the lights. Yesterday I did the walk-in door on the left front. This carpentry thing really isn't for me, though.

[chtucker]

oooooohhhhhh, aaaaaahhhhh that is pretty..... Alan for a non carpenter that is awesome. It has been fun to watch you work from 2000 miles away. I can barely find the time lately to wash my truck and here you go building a man palace

[Chuck Smith]

Made some progress this weekend. I was holding off on the office in hopes that a truck and plow could barely swing the turn from the side door. Also waiting to hear the status of the new door from the landlord. He was not in all week, and did not return calls. He lost his Dad last week, so I understand to a degree. So Sat my brother called a place around the corner from us, and they said 2 days tops for a 9' x 9' or a 10' x 10'. Tomorrow I will be ordering a 10' x 10' if I can.

Framed the office over the weekend.

~Chuck

[Chuck Smith]

A few more. There will be a door on the long wall. Ran out of 2 x 4's tonight.

A window in the front wall, and one in the back. Didn't finish framing them yet, need more lumber.

~Chuck

[Chuck Smith]

Alan, a shop like yours, including the property would easily be a half million $ around here! I envy your set up!

~Chuck

[atgreene]

Chuck, you definitely want the 10' x 10'. I always tell customers when I do garage prepwork to go with the 10' doors. Even SUV's these days need a 10' door. That'll make a nice place when you get it done. Too bad about the LL father, puts you in a spot for a while.

Howard, next up: Bar. Buddy of mine who IS a finish carpenter wants to do an oak bar out of a couple tree's we set aside and had milled, that and a brass pole on the second floor. :drinkup Pepsi What's up with that? :p

I told all my friends that we'd have a dance when I was done, the girls at the coffee shop want a pole though, I dunno why?:wink

The best part Chuck is I own the whole kit and kaboutle. Well, me and visa own it, at least till we have a few snow storms. Then I can move on to upgrading the fleet!

BTW Howard, the reason you don't have time to wash your truck is because YOUR PLOWING SNOW! You B#@$!%#d!

[Pickering Snow]

Alan

Your shop came out great man i love the siding and all the detail stuff you did iam sure its nice to have a home for the trucks now and iam sure you still in shop Bliss lol. Again great job buddy and hope you enjoy all the fruits of your labor.

[Mark Oomkes]

That's beautiful Alan. Makes me want to tear down my shop and build a bigger wack shed, I mean barn. I really need more room with a taller door and roof. Someday.

[chtucker]

If I ever do a shop... 12' wide doors and at least 12' tall... My current garage has 9' wide (about 8'5" with trim and such) and 8' high (about 95" tall with trim).... about 2" two narrow in every direction to get the 5500 inside.

[cat320]

I have to agree on Alan's set up that is a sweet home garage.

Chuck I saw the saw but what are you guys doing with the sledge hammer lol

[Mark Oomkes]

If I ever do a shop... 12' wide doors and at least 12' tall... My current garage has 9' wide (about 8'5" with trim and such) and 8' high (about 95" tall with trim).... about 2" two narrow in every direction to get the 5500 inside.

If I ever have the opportunity to do it right, I'm going with something like a 20' wide door and a 14' tall. Yeah, it'll be expensive, but it'll be worth it.

[cat320]

Howard get the land i will desgin you a nice shop. I guess every guy could really .

[atgreene]

I got the furnace installed. Buddy of mine gave me 12' or so of 8' metalbestos chimney. Got it installed the other day, real pita with the metal roof. Took a few slides down the roof till I got smart and screwed down a cleat. 5/12 pitch doesn't seem like much till you try to stand on it with work boots.

Also got a front window in and the dimmer on the front lights. Same set-up as my farmers porch on the house, so it will look about the same from the road.

Now I need to find a way to insulate. Most of the walls will get 2" styrofoam covered by the shiplap pine boards. The ceiling I'm debating on. Don't want fiberglass, too many rodents. Thinking of that silver bubblewrap stuff. Anybody got any experience with it? It's flexible but $$$$. Styrofoam is a pain to cut to fit each joist, so I like the bubble wrap for that. Spray foam would be ideal if I had the $$$

[cat320]

Alan I don't know how it would stay but they do have that dungerie type that is coated with that borax stuff for the rodents not to eat.

[T-Zab]

Styrofoam is a pain to cut to fit each joist, so I like the bubble wrap for that.

Why ? If you have a table saw (or a buddy with a portable saw) you can make perfect cuts and zip out a bunch of 14 1/2" pieces in no time. Just keep the feed rate up so you dont melt it.
If ya cut em a fizzual ( carpenter term) fat they even hold them selves in place with just a couple dabs of adhesive.
What ever you do good luck.
The Shop looks awesome :drinkup
T

[capnkel]

An electric carving knife like you would use on your christmas turkey works great on foam sheets too,espescially if you have things to fit the pieces around.

[wyldman]

Spray foam is the way to go.Quick and simple spray on installation,excellent R value,and it's airtight.

[atgreene]

Anyone priced spray foam? Looks awesome, but $$$ wise I'm trying to do everything out of pocket. I may stick with the foam board, I did part of 1 wall today and put in another window. Waiting for snow $$$ for more 2x6's and one last concrete pour.

[Bugthug]

For the spray foam for my 30x48 x 12 was 6500. I went with good ol pink panther stuff.
The spray foam is great but not that great.

[Pickering Snow]

Anyone priced spray foam? Looks awesome, but $$$ wise I'm trying to do everything out of pocket. I may stick with the foam board, I did part of 1 wall today and put in another window. Waiting for snow $$$ for more 2x6's and one last concrete pour.


Alan

Wish you were closer to me Dow Chemical is the Stryfoam board inventers there dirt cheap from the Dow Store here.


Spray foam considered the same has expanding foam? just wondered i had a funny exper with that stuff filled some cracks in a rental garage of mine and went back two days later and the siding has blown out was funny kinda thats some wicked powerful stuff.

[rgrimes945]

Allen,
I did a 40 x 60 x 16 tall and 16 ft leanto on the 60 ft side the owner didn't want to spend the money at the time and did the styro foam your asking about and says it was well worth the money spent.It has an r rating of 12 I think.I'm looking to see if I can give you a link as to where he bought it.if I can't find it I'll email him and get it for you.

Ray Grimes

[atgreene]

The final wall is complete!!!!!! Had a friend give me this window, 32? panes of glass in it, 4' + x 5'.

Poured the concrete yesterday in the rear bay, last night it was 4 degree's here, didn't realize it was going to be so cold. 2 salamanders, one propane heater and 1 wood furnace cranking for 24 hours now:geez . Did the final finish on the floor at 11 pm last night, damn power trowel quit on me so it was good enough.

I left my digital camera on the engine at work last week, I need it surgically implanted so I wont loose it.

And yes, the excavator will fit behind the topkick, tight, but it all fits. :nodd

[W-n-K Landscaping]

Looks real good!! Will be really good when you get it all insulated and warm in there- but I bet right now even without the insulation it's better than being outside working on your equipment!! Thanks for the update!!

Bill :burnout

[Bugthug]

Looks good seems to be somthing about pouring conctert in the cold I did mine on monday 26.5 yards 1 pour and he was on it until 730 at night. it was 15 degrees when he was done. but the floor looks great.

[Pickering Snow]

Looks really Good Alan something to be proud of i have enjoyed watching this thread from start to finish.

[JGresko]

Here is some starter pictures..

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Honda200sx/Garage/Picture039.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Honda200sx/Garage/04b0d9f5.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Honda200sx/Garage/Picture070.jpg

[JGresko]

Here is picture I just tok a few minutes ago to show the doors and the inside. The plastic you so it also on the ceiling and draped over the doors so it kinda makes a bay around the truck to retain some heat while working. COncrete gets poured in the Spring or when it gets a little warmer. At teh moment if it thaws and rains the floor floods since it sits low so it wont be to high with 4 inches of concrete.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Honda200sx/Garage/DSCN1852.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Honda200sx/Garage/DSCN1853.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46/Honda200sx/Garage/DSCN1854.jpg


Jeff

[denangme]

Ok, I'll give this picture posting thing a try. Here's a couple of outside (40X40), and one of a 8X16 "closet" with upper storage I built. Future plans include more lighting, insulation, heat, water, piping air lines, and finishing the concrete floor.

[denangme]

Some more inside pics. The one of the "closet" was in the back left corner, and my loft is in the back right corner.

[denangme]

Gotta have my sirius tunes in the shop!! I have 3 lp furnaces to choose from to hang in there if I go that route. I have 2 extra oil tanks sitting there and my house is oil heat. I just might put something oil fired in there for heat just to simplify things (one phone call, one delivery). We've only lived here since the beginning of July and the place was empty for 2 years. The Garage was brand new (the owner died), but was just an empty shell. The first thing I did was get some concrete poured, 16X24 6 inches thick to start. Then a seperate 200 amp electric service. I think I'll tough it out like this 'till the spring.

[Digdug]

Heres my shop, i dont have any inside pics. Its 40 x 80

[Digdug]

UH heres the pic i forgot.

[atgreene]

Good looking shops guys. korn, those track doors suck for heat retention. I'm trying to figure out a way to enclose the track system to reduce heat loss. It was 6 degree's today, got the garage up to 30 with 2 salamanders and the wood furnace. My bubblewrap insulation arrives tomorrow.

Digdug, nice shop, where are you in Maine?

[atgreene]

A pic from yesterday. I was trying to get a pic of all three trucks and the excavator inside, but I gave up and got a better pic of my future shop area instead.

[JGresko]

Good looking shops guys. korn, those track doors suck for heat retention. I'm trying to figure out a way to enclose the track system to reduce heat loss. It was 6 degree's today, got the garage up to 30 with 2 salamanders and the wood furnace. My bubblewrap insulation arrives tomorrow.

Digdug, nice shop, where are you in Maine?

We are working on something to try and retain the heat to, at the moment we have a fully inclosed plaastic bay that keeps it bearable in side with a Kero torpedo heater. we have not come up with a good solution to the problem yet.

Atleast it was 6 degrees at your place, it was -11 with a wind chill of -30, I was really planning on doing some work in the garage but said the heck with it. Now they are calling for snow again Friday and a good amount.

[atgreene]

Well, here goes. This stuff seems like it will work pretty well. We'll see. At least the mice and squirrels won't make a home out of it. And, its as warm as a sheep .

[atgreene]

I ment to add, only got a few sections done, that opening in the floor is proveing to be problematic when trying to insulate.:eek:

[atgreene]

Here's a couple pics of this weeks progress. Paneled the wall with shiplap pine after insulating with 2" styrofoam. Built some shelves, if it's one thing I like is shelves. Everything laid out where you can see it and find it. The shelf in the pic I set-up with 6 recepticles and mounted the chargers right to the shelf. Someone else had a pic of something similar, as they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flatery.:D

There is a hole in the bottom of the Dewalt chargers that works perfect for screwing them down. All my rechargers are going here in one spot. No screwing around looking for chargers. I've got a couple I'll keep for mobile use, but primarily all the flashlights, dewalts, passload, radios etc... will end up on these shelves. Slow process, especially wiring when it's 20 degrees in there :( . The rest of the insulation should be here monday so I can start retaining some heat, but when it's a high of 6 degree's, it sure feels like a lost cause.

The tractor and excavator are a tight fit, but while the ghetto truck is in intensive care, there is extra space for the 'bota.

[JGresko]

Here's a couple pics of this weeks progress. Paneled the wall with shiplap pine after insulating with 2" styrofoam. Built some shelves, if it's one thing I like is shelves. Everything laid out where you can see it and find it. The shelf in the pic I set-up with 6 recepticles and mounted the chargers right to the shelf. Someone else had a pic of something similar, as they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flatery.:D

There is a hole in the bottom of the Dewalt chargers that works perfect for screwing them down. All my rechargers are going here in one spot. No screwing around looking for chargers. I've got a couple I'll keep for mobile use, but primarily all the flashlights, dewalts, passload, radios etc... will end up on these shelves. Slow process, especially wiring when it's 20 degrees in there :( . The rest of the insulation should be here monday so I can start retaining some heat, but when it's a high of 6 degree's, it sure feels like a lost cause.

The tractor and excavator are a tight fit, but while the ghetto truck is in intensive care, there is extra space for the 'bota.


Are you insulating all the walls with that foam panels and then going over it with pine boards? Are you just nailing the foam panels to the studs/poles and leaving a gap between them and the exterior walls or are you running bats of insulation in between?

We are trying to decide on what to do with the walls on ours,we are thinking this spring just doing the walls with bats of insulation and doing interior steels on the walls. Or we might do the bats of insulation and depedning on how much it would be to get cedar boards cut from are own logs we might just go with cedar on the interior.

My dad found a 125,000btu Kerosene/Diesel(realy helps when we can get Off-road diesel for 1.90gal) for $300 at Wally world that he is thinking of picking up for working in the grages for now. That one pl,us the 50,000btu one we have now should heat the one bay pretty good. When it was 25-30 out we could get the garage to maybe 40 with the 50k one and it was bearable,but since its been in the single digits and below we need something bigger for now.

We tried doing some things on the diesel today and after fixing the leaky injector we came inside and decided to wait till tomorrow and pull the 88 out of the garage and put the 89 in there to work on it. We wanted to do it today, but the SS would not start because of how cold it was,since we did not have it plugged in overnight.

[lowes]

Here's a couple pics of this weeks progress. Paneled the wall with shiplap pine after insulating with 2" styrofoam. Built some shelves, if it's one thing I like is shelves. Everything laid out where you can see it and find it. The shelf in the pic I set-up with 6 recepticles and mounted the chargers right to the shelf. Someone else had a pic of something similar, as they say, imitation is the sincerest form of flatery.:D

There is a hole in the bottom of the Dewalt chargers that works perfect for screwing them down. All my rechargers are going here in one spot. No screwing around looking for chargers. I've got a couple I'll keep for mobile use, but primarily all the flashlights, dewalts, passload, radios etc... will end up on these shelves. Slow process, especially wiring when it's 20 degrees in there :( . The rest of the insulation should be here monday so I can start retaining some heat, but when it's a high of 6 degree's, it sure feels like a lost cause.

The tractor and excavator are a tight fit, but while the ghetto truck is in intensive care, there is extra space for the 'bota.

Your shop is amazing. I'm a newbie here and really enjoyed viewing the pictures. I really like the pine board structure. Gives it real old world construction. With a built in Loft like a real barn would have. Even better looking inside. Puts many Pole building with metal sides to shame. I built a 30x40 and love the shop. Now thinking how nice it would be have a loft.
I used double bubble wrap for my insulation. It was tacked on the outside of the purlins before the metal went up. It does block a lot of the cold wind.

[lowes]

I rented the lagest mini My truck could pull.
Dug in the shelf rock for 3 hours. Then used the breaker for 9 hours. It's a solid foundation.

[lowes]

The foundation turned out to be 7' in the rear. 3' in the front.

[lowes]

I stick framed it with 2x6's
I was able to throw up 10-20' section by myself with the use of the Kub tractor.
A buddy of mine has a large bucket truck. Set the trusses in 30 min.
Me trying to figure out how the heck bubble wrap will insulate.

[lowes]

Nothing like taking a picture form 50' in the air.

[atgreene]

Korn, I'm only using the bubble for the roof joists. All the walls are getting nailers with 2" styrofoam, then boarded over on the inside.

2 problems, running wires and making sure there are enough nailers to support the boards, especially when I start screwing shelves to them. Not sure what the code is on wiring, but I'm running the wires primarily on the floor joist's overhead and dropping down the walls next to the posts and surface stapling the wire. Hopefully code enf. won't frown on this. It's all secure, but I imagine they may want it in conduit. If so, I'll box it in with boards to protect it. Electricians, you thoughts?

They make 16", 2', 4', 6' or 8' wide, it is slick for a barn like yours. Rip out some 2x4's to 2x2's and use them for nailers, then staple it up and cover with 3/8 plywood or boards so you can build shelves. It was the most inexpensive way I could come up with.

A couple things to keep in mind, standard insulation is a haven for mice and squirrels, thats why I'm doing the bubblewrap. I may do a little blow-insulation to cap the ceiling, but I'm hesitant do to the rodents. My .410 is handy, but hard to stay ahead of them:D .

Lowes, did you use the same stuff? Did it work ok for you? Several website I checked say the r value is around 13-14. Not sure if that's acurate, but I'm going to run with it anyway. I only want to heat to 45 or 50 anyway, and I have an endless supply of wood. The styrofoam is so expensive, that this will have to do.

I figure if I suddenly fall into a pile of money :rolleyes: I'll strap the ceiling and put 1" styrofoam over the bubblewrap. But for now, it's goo enough.

[atgreene]

Lowes, that's a sweet looking set-up! I wish I had been able to do the frostwalls, but for what I would have had in concrete walls, I almost built the entire building!

Nice job.

[lowes]

I put the metal on in July.
Nothing like a "barn warming" after a completed job.
Now it is over full.

[atgreene]

Nice! You put the bubblewrap directly on the walls then skinned it with metal? That looks a lot easier than the way I did it. Is it warm, or at least heatable?

[lowes]

Lowes, that's a sweet looking set-up! I wish I had been able to do the frostwalls, but for what I would have had in concrete walls, I almost built the entire building!

Nice job.
Yes, don't remind me. Since I was on a rock hill I could not set poles. I had more of a hill than first thought. Of course with more wall the price of concrete went up. I had a crew come in a do the foundation. Myself and two buddies did the flat work. I had $9,000 in concrete. For a $7000 building.
If I ever buy ground again it will be flat ground with good topsoil.

[lowes]

Nice! You put the bubblewrap directly on the walls then skinned it with metal? That looks a lot easier than the way I did it. Is it warm, or at least heatable?
Yeah, I just climbed up the purlins drug up a 3' sheet. Started tacking it down to the purlins. Then Screw the metal down. This was my first project working with metal. The rough was the hardest. I would stand on the trusses then screw it down. My brother in law came up when I was 3/4 the way done with the rough. He wiped his shoes with a gas rag. Stuck to the metal like glue. After this show, I was able to do the same. I put the ridge, and corners on in no time. I wish I would of started with a smaller project. I still want to put a 14' lean-to off the back. To really be heatable I need to put a ceiling in. I used a kerosene heater Where I'm working. I want to put a ceiling in with blown insulation. Then a propane/or wood furnace.

[atgreene]

So you don't have any roof insulation yet, or did you do under the metal roof as well? Looks nice either way. The space between the doors is nice, gives you a space to work.

[rgrimes945]

Hey Lowes, Welcome to LTS Your going to find a lot of good info here! and some of the Idea's they come up with here,Whoa!!! So, Welcome and enjoy..

Ray Grimes

[lowes]

So you don't have any roof insulation yet, or did you do under the metal roof as well? Looks nice either way. The space between the doors is nice, gives you a space to work.
I have double bubble wrap on top of the roof purlins. My ceiling is open trusses. I live and learn. I wish I would of had more than 2" over hang on the ends. I put the ridge peieces for the metal fairly close. Having not worked with metal. When I put my ridge cap on I could of moved each peice down 4" more to have a 6" over hang. Now in heavy rains the water just drops and splashes on the doors. I will need to put up a gutter. It doesn't get as cold here in Central MO like you guys up north may have. I would like to put some kind of ceiling in to help out with heat. So it does not just escape and stay trapped above the truss area. If I would put a ceiling in with blown insulation I should be pretty snug. Also help out with lighting.
When I was 8 Dad and I built a 16x16 log shed. Of couse now it is way to small. We would like to take the roof of the top of the shed and put 2x's on top the log to make a loft. This would give us an area to store straw.
Then add on a large roof and build a 32'x40' metal building.
I have been a guest on here for some time. I really enjoy building and fabrication.

[Farmer]

Electricians, you thoughts
Atgreene
You have a beautiful building, if rodents are even a slight concern I'd run pipe or at the very least steel or alum flex conduit. It may more then double the cost of wiring, but the piece of mind and potential upgrades if you over size conduit will make it worth it. I'm pretty sure you've already poured all your floors but anyone else considering a shop may want to think about running pvc pipe under floors to save on wiring. Mark

[TLB]

Here is my 30 x 40 out back.
Two 12' doors
We have natural gas, 220 service, phone, & cable tv too.

And yes those are snow clouds.

[atgreene]

TLB, that looks like the freaking TUNDRA!:eek: lol

I hope it's insulated well, looks like the wind might blow a bit there. Nice looking shop.

As far as conduit, I'm not worried about the mice and the wiring, as it's all exposed and they have plenty of other stuff to eat, just them nesting. I've been puting d-con all through the building as I build it, when I moved the hay the other day I found 3 more nests and a bunch of dead mice (insert coffin smily here), come to think of it I haven't seen my wifes damn cat in quite a while, wonder where that little b@#%!#d went:rolleyes: ..................

I thought about running conduit under the floor, but no mater where I wanted to run it to I always rethought it and said it was in the wrong spot. Besides, my blueprints didn't show it on the plan:wink :haha .

[Mark Oomkes]

No kidding Alan, makes me cold just looking at that pic. Definitely need some sheep to keep you warm there.

You're just up the road from Fred, TLB. That pic must have been taken looking North, maybe NNE??

[atgreene]

Well, it was bound to happen eventually. 3 years and all the hours I have worked on this damn barn, I had yet to fall. My streak had to come to an end.

So the story: 3 weeks ago or so I had run the cross members (2x8's) across the shop area and nailed them up. When I say nailed, I mean passload with 4 nails just to hold them in place untill I put a scab under them and nailed them properly. Flash forward to today, laid a few 2x8's on top of these cross members to stand on while I did some insulating, forgetting the lack of nails and scab to properly hold up the 2x8 floor joists I was intending to stand on.

You can see this coming, right?

It of course let go, dropping me 8', luckily I road it down, or fell on top of it when it went out from under me. A couple lacerations, bruises, slight concusion and majorly bruised ego:( . Checked for c spine etc... everything seems normal, just real sore.

I think I'll wait for my buddies staging plank and staging to do the rest.

[Mark Oomkes]

Alan, glad to hear you're OK, sort of.

Let me help with the assessment.

How many sheep do you see? :rolling

Does this sheep have horns? :rolling

PS You're just trying to make me feel better about thinking I could float a SS, aren't you?

[Wizard]

Wow, this is a crazy group. People that think they can fly, float skid steers, get boulders stuck in trees... Don't even get me started on those that can dish it and not take it...:popcorn2

[Prosno]

you forgot these peoplesheep sheep

[Wizard]

... and those crazy sheep sheep sheep...

Feel better now??? :scramble

[JGresko]

Well, it was bound to happen eventually. 3 years and all the hours I have worked on this damn barn, I had yet to fall. My streak had to come to an end.

So the story: 3 weeks ago or so I had run the cross members (2x8's) across the shop area and nailed them up. When I say nailed, I mean passload with 4 nails just to hold them in place untill I put a scab under them and nailed them properly. Flash forward to today, laid a few 2x8's on top of these cross members to stand on while I did some insulating, forgetting the lack of nails and scab to properly hold up the 2x8 floor joists I was intending to stand on.

You can see this coming, right?

It of course let go, dropping me 8', luckily I road it down, or fell on top of it when it went out from under me. A couple lacerations, bruises, slight concusion and majorly bruised ego:( . Checked for c spine etc... everything seems normal, just real sore.

I think I'll wait for my buddies staging plank and staging to do the rest.


That sucks Alan, Glad you alright,well semi alright. It could of been worse though.

[PSDF350]

Alan glad to hear you came out relitivly unscathed. As for the bruised ego it heals. Next time maybe you'll remember not to leave things half done. Much to easy to forget they aren't done. Again glad your ok. Now fix the damn barn.:grinz

[iakentdoz]

Here are a few pics of my shop. Well OK, It's a garage and I have to let the little woman park her car in there too. Sorry it's kind of messy, need to hire a maid to clean it, LOL

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage_w.jpg




This is my new work bench are. The cabinets are from where I work, they were going to throw them out.

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage2a.jpg




This is the new loft I built to help with all the junk, equipment and toys.

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage1a.jpg




One more of the loft, I added 2 lights under the floor since it's so dark in there. Also ran conduit along the ceiling for two flood lights along each wall and added more outlets on each wall since there were only 2 outlets to start with.

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage3a.jpg

[iakentdoz]

Now if I only had a place to store the truck, trailer, and plow. I'm hopping to rent a warehouse/shop maybe next year.

[PSDF350]

Here are a few pics of my shop. Well OK, It's a garage and I have to let the little woman park her car in there too. Sorry it's kind of messy, need to hire a maid to clean it, LOL

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage_w.jpg




This is my new work bench are. The cabinets are from where I work, they were going to throw them out.

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage2a.jpg




This is the new loft I built to help with all the junk, equipment and toys.

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage1a.jpg




One more of the loft, I added 2 lights under the floor since it's so dark in there. Also ran conduit along the ceiling for two flood lights along each wall and added more outlets on each wall since there were only 2 outlets to start with.

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage3a.jpgCant see anything just an X where pics are supposed to be.

[iakentdoz]

Here are a few pics of my shop. Well OK, It's a garage and I have to let the little woman park her car in there too. Sorry it's kind of messy, need to hire a maid to clean it, LOL

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage_w.jpg




This is my new work bench are. The cabinets are from where I work, they were going to throw them out.

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage2a.jpg




This is the new loft I built to help with all the junk, equipment and toys.

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage1a.jpg




One more of the loft, I added 2 lights under the floor since it's so dark in there. Also ran conduit along the ceiling for two flood lights along each wall and added more outlets on each wall since there were only 2 outlets to start with.

http://www.hls-nl.com/host/garage3a.jpg

Sorry, web server must be down.

Here that are...

[PSDF350]

Now I can see it too much. Your original post my post your repost:grinz Must be sheep in server.

[Pickering Snow]

Here is my 30 x 40 out back.
Two 12' doors
We have natural gas, 220 service, phone, & cable tv too.

And yes those are snow clouds.


Welcome to LTS TLB your about 17 miles from me my boat is on dry docked in your little town at Bay Harbor. Nice to have someone close. again welcome .

[Landgreen]

iakentdoz-Is that a bench grinder on that television set?

I have the same problem- a garage with no space. Moving soon and will be putting up a building.

[atgreene]

This was a tight fit! All three trucks, kubota loader, alpine double track all crammed in the barn. I normally don't park the 3/4 ton in the center, but due to what I needed to do it worked out better. I have 1" to spare from the door with the plow against the stairs. :D

[cat320]

just goes to show ya no matter how big you make it you always need one bigger lol. At least you got them in nothing like being able to pull into a dry space to park and do repairs. you have to be loving the new shop this year.

[chtucker]

Well now that I am moving, I am glad I never built the dream shop here... Now I just need to convince the wife...

1200sqft house
3000sqft shop:D

Alan I give you credit for doing most of the work with cash in hand, it took a lot of discipline! Ain't it nice to be working in a place that is dry and warm!

[atgreene]

You have no idea how nice it feels to have everything in a heated shop. And there's still room for the excavator (it's on a job site) and my other double track, and still have room to work in the shop area.

[Mark Oomkes]

Well now that I am moving, I am glad I never built the dream shop here... Now I just need to convince the wife...

1200sqft house
3000sqft shop:D


You going to explain yourself a little more about this comment, Howard?

What's up?

[atgreene]

Howard, inquiring minds want to know.

[cat320]

Well now that I am moving, I am glad I never built the dream shop here... Now I just need to convince the wife...

1200sqft house
3000sqft shop:D

Alan I give you credit for doing most of the work with cash in hand, it took a lot of discipline! Ain't it nice to be working in a place that is dry and warm!

Not to get off track but where ya moving to Howard ?

[Ecurb]

Well my new toy shop should start in about a month....cant wait.Lift will be the first thing installed after its built. Now no going to the big shop and getting bothered....cant wait.

[atgreene]

Gaining:

Because it has been so cold (this was at 1 am when I got back from a fire call) I've been working inside. Trying to get organized, but I can't do that until I get some walls built and sheathed. I moved the hay (again) and started on the front corner. Between fire calls today (3) I managed to get some of it done. With the wood furnace roaring wide open I can get the upstairs to 35 or so. The wind is blowing so hard my sliding doors are more like sails than doors.

[cat320]

wow that is still pretty cold Alan you must lose alot of heat with the sliders trying to keep them tight.I think that was one reason i would of went with regular insulated doors.once you get it more buttoned up with sheathing and insulation it should keep it warmer. still better to work inside than out :wink

[atgreene]

Overhead doors will be in order eventually. Sliders were cheap, I had the wood. At $2000 a piece for OHD, I'm holding out for a better offer. lol

[cat320]

yeah they are big bucks , something is better than nothing .Well next week they are saying 50'smaybe even 60 here so i'm sure it will be some what warm up there for you to get more of it done .

[atgreene]

Ok, I'm going to pull the trigger on overhead doors. Looking at metal insulated with one row of windows. Any suggestions? What should I be looking for? I plan on doing 2- 10 x 10 and 1- 12 x 12.

[cat320]

my uncle got some that were made in canada and they where highly r rated to keep the heat in plus insulated glass.

[Seaside L&PS]

Alan, like the shop you built, I'm not looking for one that big but I like it. I have to hire you to help or consult on mine. I feel pretty confident building it, it is pouring the concrete that has me worried know of any foundation companies or people who do concrete on the side? I am going to excavate for the slab and do all the prep work, form work just need the professional help with pouring and floating it.

I am going up to the mill in casco this week or weekend to see about building packages.

[atgreene]

Talk to Patrick at Red Mill, he's usually the one at the desk, the owner, Kermit, may be there Saturday.

You'll find that they will have the best prices for things like metal roofing.

The concrete work isn't bad, just labor intensive. I wasn't too worried about a perfect finish so I did it myself. You can rent a power trowel anywhere to do a quick finish. I'd offer to help, but the way things are right now, I'm booking into June of next year.

If you're flexible, maybe I can find some morning to give you a hand between jobs. Use P&K if you can, the front dumps are much easier on the screeders backs when you're pouring.

I screeded that 14' x 42' pour in about 15 minutes, alone. The others were all 14' x 28', so they were easier :rolleyes:.

[tbalz]

I just put in 2- 10x10 and 1- 10x12 and 2- 8x9 in my pole barn. I went with Raynor insulated. I think they are the Decade II. They have an R-value of 5. I went with one row of windows in each. The 10's and 12 are all in a row and the windows are off about .5" on the 12'er as compared to the 10's, but you cant really tell.

I paid $6500 installed for all five doors. They didnt charge me tax because is was a capital improvement...so it paid for the installation cost. They supplied all the metal work to hang them from my 14' ceilings. If I installed myself I would have had to pay tax and buy mine own angle iron. This was also cheaper than I could find for similar doors online and get them shipped to me.

[Chuck Smith]

Ok, I'm going to pull the trigger on overhead doors. Looking at metal insulated with one row of windows. Any suggestions? What should I be looking for? I plan on doing 2- 10 x 10 and 1- 12 x 12.

I paid $910 for my 10' x 10' door. No windows. Now I wish I got a couple to let some light in. One side wall of my shop is 50' long and concrete block, and so is the back wall. No insulation, so the R value of the door was a moot point. Door came with track and torsion springs. I don't remember what installation was, my landlord paid for it. If you search here I might have posted it. The installer mentioned that there were some new doors coming out with thermal breaks (meaning wood frames inside) that had higher R values that were true. He said most clad doors have little R value because the steel inside touches the steel shell outside. There goes the R value.

~Chuck

[Seaside L&PS]

Thanks Alan I am definitely going to stop up there Saturday or Friday (if it rains) I am leaning towards a pole barn now to get a bigger structure at a better price and be able to spread the cost out a bit. That and I really like how yours came out. Probably won't be as big and I will probably do without the loft but I like how beefy and the height to it.

No problem I am flexible I see you running around Portland all the time and it seems every time I turn around I hear sirens and see the FD running by. One of my fathers friends has built 4 pole barns so I will have him supervising as well. But the red saw mill will give me a good start.

I will give a shout if I need any help of info on what I need to do.

Thanks for the help

[atgreene]

Feel free to ride up and look at mine if you want some ideas. I coppied liberally from the guys here. A lot of the things I did that everyone thought was unique was just stolen ideas from someone else:wink.

Good luck.

[apgarconstruction]

I paid $910 for my 10' x 10' door. No windows. Now I wish I got a couple to let some light in. One side wall of my shop is 50' long and concrete block, and so is the back wall. No insulation, so the R value of the door was a moot point. Door came with track and torsion springs. I don't remember what installation was, my landlord paid for it. If you search here I might have posted it. The installer mentioned that there were some new doors coming out with thermal breaks (meaning wood frames inside) that had higher R values that were true. He said most clad doors have little R value because the steel inside touches the steel shell outside. There goes the R value.

~Chuck

chuck, concrete block actually retains temps pretty good for not being insulated inside. insulated door would have helped even more. just a thought for next time. my buddy has a big barn with concrete walls and even when it's really hot out. it's always cooler in there, with no air cond or anything on. same thing with the winter, it holds the heat in the blocks longer. brick and solid stone buildings are the same way.

[Seaside L&PS]

Feel free to ride up and look at mine if you want some ideas. I coppied liberally from the guys here. A lot of the things I did that everyone thought was unique was just stolen ideas from someone else:wink.

Good luck.

Alan,

Definitely going to take you up on that offer. I talked to a guy today that has built 4 and he said he saved a tone of money by using Telephone poles that he got for free from Grondin and said Shaw Bros does the same. But I don't know how he built the rest to accommodate the round shape.

I like that Kodiak, saw it at the Firehouse the other day.

[atgreene]

Just wanted to do a quick update.

Moved the doodle bug out after 2 years and not touching it. Makes for lots more room. Spent the day rotating tires, changing oil, rewiring lights and generally just hanging out in the whack shack.:wink

[atgreene]

And of course, the final overhead door is done. Buddy of mine needs plowing, I need trim. We're gonna do a little swap shortly so the front will be neatened up.

Also, note the outhouse in the background. Nice addition if I do say so myself.:D:p

Now I just need to add-on to make room for the old girl on the hill.

[JD Dave]

Finally got the shop I always wanted this summer, not my dream shop but very close.

[JD Dave]

A few more.......................

[jfsanterre]

wow! that is a shop!:ff

[jfsanterre]

The only one I got for now. It is an old shed from 1935. The wood structure is in a very good shape, but need lots of work to have it like I want it. It's 25' X 50' by 16' tall. Half have a second floor witch I like to put storage and parts. 3 doors, 2 10' X 7.5' and a 12' X12'. I have a used 9000# car hoist to install. Got the new concrete floor last summer, next is good insulation, 200 amp electric panel and tin wall:rolleyes:... but for now, not enough money!:(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v641/jfsanterre/cockshutt/cs2003.jpg

[hlntoiz]

Dave, HOLY SHAT! That place is huge. Can you fit all of your tractors in there? How many sq ft is it?

Alan, Looks good, Did you get that winch on the old girl yet?

jfsan, That is about the size I am planning on building. 24'x50' by about 18' tall cathedrial celling. One 14'Hx12'w Door.

[BSDeality]

Finally got the shop I always wanted this summer, not my dream shop but very close.Dave, those floors look mighty slippery. Are they bad with snow/ice on them? I've taken a digger on a painted garage floor once with snowy boots. I think it broke the sound barrier on the way down, happened really quick.

I'll see if I can get some pictures of my shop today when I'm up there. kind of a huge mess right now though, need another week to clean it up and put the lawn stuff away for winter.

[chtucker]

Alan, JD and everyone looking GREAT!

My 24x36 is stuffed for the winter with the Civic, Bronco, Land Cruiser, FJ Cruiser, motorcycle, snow blower... I have to back something out to work on anything.. I am JEALOUS

[BSDeality]

here's my mess of a shop. We've been in transition mode from lawns/leaves to snow fighting. Hence stuff randomly scattered around the shop. It's not normally this bad, but we've been balls out with work since mid-october.

it's about 1500ft (30x48) It has an office, which is really just more storage space for Tires, left over fert/lime from the green season. One thing I do like about the office was I put up some masonite? (i think thats what its called) to use as a whiteboard. We lined the entire office in it, just a 4' tall border of it. We use dry-erase markers to just write down whatever, to-do lists, time-sheets, equipment needs/history, etc. It works out really well and it lightens the room since its shiny white.

Normally the Kubota L48 is in there where the engine stand and spare Toyota bed are against the wall, but its out right now.

[BSDeality]

here's the office whiteboards and one last shot of the shop. 1 of my 275g totes, 60 gal sprayer on top there. Really need to clean up the shop. Hopefully later this week. Tomorrow's priority is to prime the new moldboard I put on one of the fishers yesterday. Then we've got one more straggler fall cleanup to do then its finally time to clean the shop

PS, anyone wanna buy some Unilock, have some left-overs that I need out of the shop to make room for plows

[hlntoiz]

Matt, that masonite is a pretty good idea. I have a white board but it won't be big enough for the to do list. I will prob install some for my office. I was supposed to be building my garage now, instead I need to put a new roof on the house in the spring and some little extra additions:mad: Not expect renovations!

[BSDeality]

Matt, that masonite is a pretty good idea. I have a white board but it won't be big enough for the to do list. I will prob install some for my office. I was supposed to be building my garage now, instead I need to put a new roof on the house in the spring and some little extra additions:mad: Not expect renovations!I went to staples to buy a whiteboard last year when I got into the shop. they had a 6x8 one for $189 and thats when I realized there has to be a better way... my father turned me onto the idea of the masonite, he uses it in his electrical workspace in the basement. Its pretty economical to buy and goes up easy. I found some SS screws that had a 5/8" washer built onto the head to mount it without driving the screws through the board.

[BSDeality]

just realized i forgot to put up the third bay of the garage with the hydroseeders.... TT300 and TT500

[JD Dave]

Dave, those floors look mighty slippery. Are they bad with snow/ice on them? I've taken a digger on a painted garage floor once with snowy boots. I think it broke the sound barrier on the way down, happened really quick.

I'll see if I can get some pictures of my shop today when I'm up there. kind of a huge mess right now though, need another week to clean it up and put the lawn stuff away for winter.

Actually not too slippery. It was an 2 part epoxy sealer that we applied ourselves and it wasn't cheap. It makes sweeping and washing the floor a breeze. I will have to wait and see how long it lasts though.

[jfsanterre]

Actually not too slippery. It was an 2 part epoxy sealer that we applied ourselves and it wasn't cheap. It makes sweeping and washing the floor a breeze. I will have to wait and see how long it lasts though.

The guys who did my floor put that stuff too, was suppose to be very good, protect from oil spill, etc, etc, etc....:rolleyes: Well, it work and look good for the first week and now it look like s***t... I think I got screw!:mad:

[jfsanterre]

Dave, what is that magnum in the garage? Don't you are a Deer Fan???:grinz
Where is your farm, area?

[JD Dave]

Dave, what is that magnum in the garage? Don't you are a Deer Fan???:grinz
Where is your farm, area?

We have a 255 Case left, it's a good tractor. We farm in the Caledon and Brampton area.

BSDeality you have a really nice setup also.

[JD Dave]

The guys who did my floor put that stuff too, was suppose to be very good, protect from oil spill, etc, etc, etc....:rolleyes: Well, it work and look good for the first week and now it look like s***t... I think I got screw!:mad:

I bought it from a commercial coatings place and we applied it ourselves. When you mixed the 2 parts you had to apply in 30 min. It was over $200/1000 sq/ft so I hope it works good.

[DaveCN5]

JD Dave,
Nice shop! I like the telehandler you have in your pictures, but like your Sierra even more. ;)

[atgreene]

Thought I'd bump up an old thread.

I started to add on to the rear of the garage two years ago, finally got back at it last week. Metal roofing started to go on today. This will give me 52' of depth on one bay as well as lots more storage.

[DaveCN5]

Our shop is 3 years old. Here's the bays:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/th_12062010238.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/?action=view&current=12062010238.jpg)
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/th_12062010232.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/?action=view&current=12062010232.jpg)

[DaveCN5]

Break Room:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/th_12062010234.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/?action=view&current=12062010234.jpg)

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/th_12062010233.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/?action=view&current=12062010233.jpg)

[DaveCN5]

Storage/Show room, coming off the break room:
http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/th_12062010235.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/?action=view&current=12062010235.jpg)

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/th_12062010237.jpg (http://s250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/Mobile%20Uploads/?action=view&current=12062010237.jpg)

[snowplowjay]

GT500 in the corner???

[DaveCN5]

GT500 in the corner???

Yes sir, and a very heavily modified one as well. White with blue stripes. It's got a $12,000 blower on it, full racing exahust and manifolds, bored, etc. It's cranking out ~820 BHP. Our owner wants to get it up into the 900's.

[Dwan]

Yes sir, and a very heavily modified one as well. White with blue stripes. It's got a $12,000 blower on it, full racing exahust and manifolds, bored, etc. It's cranking out ~820 BHP. Our owner wants to get it up into the 900's.


I'm keeping mine mild and staying around 700 RWHP. And tuning it to go around corners.

[JD Dave]

Yes sir, and a very heavily modified one as well. White with blue stripes. It's got a $12,000 blower on it, full racing exahust and manifolds, bored, etc. It's cranking out ~820 BHP. Our owner wants to get it up into the 900's.

That's crazy!! Very nice setup you have there also.

[DaveCN5]

That's crazy!! Very nice setup you have there also.

It's a little ridiculous if you ask me. He has so many points on his driver's license already that if he gets another speeding ticket, he loses his license. The thing about it is that the car gets up to 100 mph like it's no problem and you don't even feel it. Our employees have a pool going to see how long he keeps his license for. :popcorn2 I was cringing though watching him teach his wife how to drive a manual for the first time in that. You could almost taste the burning clutch in your mouth. :eek:

And of course the shop is very nice. However, no matter how big you build, it still isn't big enough. We're cramped for space, espeecially during the winter.

I'm keeping mine mild and staying around 700 RWHP. And tuning it to go around corners.

That looks SHARP! Much nicer looking than his. His looks completely stock with the exception of the carbon fiber induction hood that's painted to match.

This is one has most of the same parts as his, except the color scheme is reversed. And all the smoke and flames and stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKDkBR8-2mA

[snowplowjay]

Nice car DWAN!

That detonation video is making its way around all the Mustang boards lately!!! YIKES!!!

[Dwan]

Wife wants me to fab a snow plow mount for it. LOL

[DaveCN5]

And another pic showing the outside of the shop and about 75% of our equipment.

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg245/DaveCN5/CBF_equipment.jpg