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cutntrim
03-03-2004, 09:08 AM
I'm putting together a quote for a large manufacturing company that wants full year property maintenance. I'm dividing the quote into seperate summer and winter contracts, since there is a lot more work involved for snow than there is for lawns and gardens.

The parking lot areas are large, and there loading dock areas behind the building are going to be a pain. Piled snow will have to be moved away from those areas by loader/backhoe.

I'm curious as to what a reasonable rental fee (for the season) might be for a backhoe (eg. JD 510)? I need to compare renting a machine and providing an operator, versus subcontracting a loader operator to be available each storm.

It would be nice to use the loader for the initial plowing/stacking as well as the follow-up relocating of snow piles. If renting, I'd consider purchasing a pusher box to use with the backhoe.

Thanks for your input.

:canada

SLC1
03-03-2004, 12:40 PM
Start talking to the equipment dealers now, for winter rentals next season, Around here the dealers are all over the place as price goes, but a few have winter deals with a maxium amount of hours, the local Komatsu dealer has a Loader/Backhoe 140? for about $1,200 per month from November 15th through April 15th. That is a good price and I am sure that if you look at enough dealers you should be able to find one that is willing to work with you, they get a machine out on rental for the winter and you get a machine to use in your busy season. Just my two cents.

cutntrim
03-03-2004, 04:11 PM
Yeah, it's definately an advantage to be able to sniff around this early. The only rental company I've talked to so far is the one nearest my storage garages. The manager is going to get back to me, but said they carry the JD 510 backhoe and can get me a "very good price" if I'm looking at a long term (5-6mo.) rental.

A friend who sometimes does excavating work for me said he was quoted $5,000/mo. for a loader earlier in the fall. He didn't take them up on it, and he can't remember what make/size it was. That's AWFULLY EXPENSIVE though!

Ideally, the lot would be done with a backhoe and pusher box, a skidsteer w/blade, and a pickup w/blade. Additionally, a dump truck would be utilized with the backhoe to relocate piles away from the loading areas.

I don't currently own a backhoe, or a skidsteer, or a dump truck, or a pusher box.

I'd likely rent/sub the backhoe and dump, and possibly buy the skidsteer and pusher box. I could use a skidsteer at several other properties I do now.

SLC1
03-04-2004, 05:54 AM
That 5k sounds like that is what they get during the regular season with full hours 40per week on them, that doesnt sound like a deal, that is why you have to go to a few to find one that is willing to deal, we went to something like 6 or more equipment dealers until we found one that wanted to deal, they rent out almost half their fleet of rental equip. for the winter, they love it because they have their stuff out on rent, and it is not sitting even when it is getting used it certainly isnt getting abused just pushing snow. Just my two cents

cutntrim
03-04-2004, 09:22 AM
Sounds like a plan.

Measured the lot this morning and broke it down into areas suitable for each equipment type:

Loader/backhoe: 211,200ft (4.85 acres)
Pickup Truck: 56,350ft (1.3 acres)
Skidsteer: 119,450ft (2.74 acres)

Total area approximately 9 acres.

The skidsteer area could be done tag-team with another machine (loader or pickup). It's a tricky area on the whole, since it's where their loading bay doors are, and they've got shipping containers and loose skids of equipment lying here-there-everywhere. Up to 3/4 of the snow from that area would have to be relocated to other areas of the property. I'd need to bring in a dump truck to work with the loader to do that.

It's a pretty fair size definately, and that's why I'm not presenting them with a "seasonal flat fee" type of quote. Don't want to take a chance in getting burned.

cutntrim
03-18-2004, 04:51 PM
What sort of production rates are you guys getting with backhoes/loaders? For an obstacle-free 1-acre lot, how long is it taking you to clear, say 6"? Or put another way, how much acreage can you expect to clear in an hour with a 6" snow depth?