Emergency

[EZSnow]

got 6" down and more on the way. this may not belong here, but I need it to get as many views as possible. bear with me please.

I was up and plowing for 20 hours on 4 hours sleep- zombie mode. Backed into a light pole at a pretty good clip. didn't touch the body, but it folded the bumper up pretty good. It stalled the motor- INSTANTLY. I checked the fuel pump inertia switch under the glove box- nothing. It hit hard enough that the passenger side battery came free from the hold-down. omg

the truck has 17k, orig fuel filter- could that be it? I dumped the water separator. I didn't see anything that looked dislodged, unplugged, crushed, leaking. Oh- it's cranking over good and strong, just won't catch... I'm new to diesel. the motor was warm but wouldn't start. all you need is fuel and compression to start, right?

thanks guys- Derek

[wyldman]

Check the fuses first,maybe one blew if the battery shorted out when it came loose.

Check the transfer pump in the tank,it may have gotten knocked off from the impact.

[EZSnow]

can a "knocked off" transfer pump be reinstalled? or does it have to be replaced?

[Pelican]

I'd focus on the cam positioning sensor. These are known for failure and will shut the truck down instantly. The impact may have been the final straw on one that was heading towards failure.

I'm not sure exactly where it's mounted, on the front cover somewhere, but I hear it's easy to change, less than 1/2 hour. Do a search for "CPS" on DieselStop (http://forums.thedieselstop.com/ubbthreads/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=ubb37) , there are quite a few posts about it, including location and how to change it.

Good luck!

[synner]

same thing happened to me 2 wks ago. folded up the bumper really nicely, creased the tailgate, blew all of my rear light bulbs and a few fuses. mine is a gas truck so it still started and ran but the impact did put out the bulbs and fuses in a hurry. Good luck with it.

[CPSS]

I agree with Pelican, probably the CPS. Also when you first turn the key to ON, but not crank, can you hear the fuel pump run for a few seconds. Its mounted to the drivers side frame rail behind the cab. If not, you could have blown the fuse.

[chtucker]

Welcome to the world of a non-running diesel (sorry I am bitter)

Check all the fuses the ones under the hood and the ones under the dash. The CPS is available from ford or IH, $85 from IH and over $150 from Ford (7.3)

I don't remember if you have a 6.0 or 7.3, but the CPS is easy enough to change that I would try a friends CPS (or "borrow it;) )

On the 7.3, if you are underneath it is on the passenger side just to the side of and a little higher than than the balancer. Takes a 10mm socket.

The fuel pump is on the frame almost directly below your feet.

You have roadside assistance, maybe take advantage of it?

Howard (can' trade the $%## excursion till they can get it running):headwall

[EZSnow]

I can't find the underhood fuses. Roadside is on their way. Dealer can't look at it till monday. I have fuel to the filter. I bled the pressure off through the water separator, cranked it over, and got fuel again. So there's fuel to the filter, but still no pop.

From the dieselstop reading I did, it's likely CPS, but we'll see.

"Hello, roadside assistance"

"Yeah, my truck stalled and won't start"

"Does it crank?"

"Yup"

"fuel switch?"

"checked it"

"somone will be out within the hour"

"thanks"


... now I just gotta get my plow home

on edit: BTW- you guys are the best, no matter what anyone says!!!

[synner]

I talked the roadside/CAA guy last week to tow my truck with the plow on. He says "can't do it, what if the plow hits the ground?" I reminded him that the plow had been hitting the ground all night long. He towed it with the blade on. Good luck with the truck.

[sbrennan007]

Just a thought, but check inside the cab on the passengers side foot area. There is a trip switch located to the right side of the footwell area, which should have a small area to put your finger in and reset the button.

This may or may not be the problem, but there is an emergency trip switch in there in case the vehicle rolls over. With as hard a hit as you describe, this may have been tripped...

Again, this is on the inside of the cab, in the lower passenger foot well on the right side. You can't see the switch, but there is a little hole to reset it through...

Hope this helps...

[jt5019]

Sorry to hear about your truck.Let us know what happens. synner Fyi they made me take my plow off before they would tow it i think it just depends on the company

[chtucker]

A superduty crewcab would barely fit on a roll back as it is. Pretty sure that any tow company would make you take the blade off. Virtually no towing companys out here use wheel lifts/hoists any more. Plus the booger weighs close 8k lbs as it is... I always end up with a medium duty tow bill.

Howard

[EZSnow]

my truck rolls empty about 7,000... plow and ballast she's pushing 9,000 and change... not to mention the length. The guy came with a flatnose rollback. Loaded it up back first, plow on. I wasn't there, but my dad said the front tires barely made it on the truck, and the plow hung way off. Must've been a sight! I think I'm glad I didnt' see it, though. There's something very depressing about your business riding away on someone else's truck.

p.s.- I tried the reset already, thanks

[Dockboy]

Originally posted by EZSnow
I can't find the underhood fuses.

Derek,

The under hood fuses are in a black box behind the airbox and next to the brake fluid resevior;)

Ther are two clips and the top pops open

[Pelican]

I don't believe he's got underhood fuses on an '03. My '02 has moved everything inside, the '01 has them where Greg states.

[Dockboy]

Sorry Guy's:o I didn't know they moved it!!

Derek,

Let us know what they find out!!

[BOUNDS-ELECTRIC]

If you open the water dump valve on the fuel filter & turn key on you can tell if you are gettin fuel! Just a thought!

[EZSnow]

I had fuel at the dump valve, cranked and tried again, more fuel. Anyway, I'll let y'all now what the dealer comes up with tomorrow. It's snowing right now. I called in a favor and have someone else's backup truck for tomorrow morning, so I'm covered. Later- Derek

[EZSnow]

Replaced IPR...
"Injector Pressure Regulator"

From dealer report: "Found IPR had a cracked retaining nut ad fell apart. repl"

They also found a code for the exhaust backpressure sensor.

Most importantly, it was covered under the warranty!!

[Crimedog]

I thought they would void your warranty with the crew cab? Especially when it rolls in with the plow on! At least it got taken care of, and for free:D ;)

[Dockboy]

Derek,

Glad they found it:D

I actually have several IPR's that I rotate in the truck. They become "sticky" and can cause all sorts of problems. Bad/rough idle, no power on take off among other things. They are easy to take apart and clean although Ford will tell you it can't be done :rolleyes:

Also the EBP sensor needs to be cleaned/replaced periodically especially if you have the truck chipped. They get caked full of soot and cause a EBP out of range code. It's pretty simple to do. Let me know if you would like some step by steps;)

[EZSnow]

As my signature line used to read... "yes I will plow with it- no, they can't void my WHOLE warranty."

They found a part that seemed to them to be a defect in materials or workmanship and replaced it. The truck is not a 'plow prep' truck, but I have scaled it, and it runs right at the 5200# on the front axle with my fat tail in the driver's seat, and plenty of snow, ice and slush attached to the plow/ truck. What case could possibly be made to void my warranty, especially on something totally non-related, like my lumbar support? (just an example) The vehicle is being operated within its stated capacities. What if I had a monstrous, 1500 lb winch bumper? The front axle would be overweight and any damages resulting from that miscalculation (ball joints, springs, etc.) should not be expected to be covered. How bout an 800# bumper that keeps front axle weight in check? Shouldn't be a problem. You're running it at the outer limits of specs, but it's within specs, and should be covered.

A little off-topic, but it's a subject I have always liked to rant on!

As for the EBS, I don't have a chip or anything... yet:grinz so we'll see about learning how to fix that stuff once the warranty is up and I've got some extra juice!