View Full Version : Anyone bought new V edges this year ?
Earthscapes
03-01-2008, 06:29 AM
Reason i'm asking is, I put a new set on Nov 15th., plowed 21 times since then and there is about a 1/2" of edge left before I'm into the blade itself.
My last set made it 2 full seasons about 43 runs, with actually more plowing than I'm doing now.
I have always swore by these and the way they wear, but I think someone changed material along the way. My dealer told me to call Boss and complain, but I think I would just be blowin smoke out my azz.
GMC Driver
03-01-2008, 08:03 AM
Keith, you're not the only one to notice this. I bought a set last year for the poly-v, and then put a set on the steel-v this fall. The second set has been wearing much quicker than the first set. Both plows are used pretty much exclusively on asphalt (both do one gravel lot).
I noticed it when going through PM at the beginning of the week - so it might just be that with the heavier use this winter, the difference is becoming apparent more quickly. I've got to agree that this wear is much quicker than the original set.
Other than this complaint, these new edges that elimnate the hoof and have the curb guards have been a big improvement.
Are you talking about a new style set that replace the puck and have curb guards? We have had no complaints with them. They are higher grade wear resistant steel and everyone has loved them so far.
Earthscapes
03-03-2008, 03:32 AM
Yes those, with the 2x wear.
They wear 2x faster :mad:
I'm not spending another $380 on edges with only 27 days of the season left. I took my old set and welded them to this set. So I have enough edge to finish this season.
Sounds cheap huh, well i'm pretty upset and even told them to hold onto to my new 8'2"V w/wings that I just ordered.
Mark Oomkes
03-03-2008, 04:17 AM
Holy cow, you guys got 2 seasons out of the original sets? I could never make it 1 entire season, with only around 20 pushes.
And I'm sorry, but it is just beyond stupid that Boss took almost 20 years to come out with the center piece and curb guards. We were doing that 15 years ago. Glad to see they're right on top of innovations. :rolleyes:
Earthscapes
Not sure why you only got that small amount of wear out of yours because i Have 14 pushes on blacktop and have no sign of wear on them. What does your dealer say. I have not had or heard of any issues. I am still running an original set on my 04 8'2" V (not much use in 06-07 though). They are going to need to be replaced after this season though.
Mark
I know... not everything is a White Blizzard. I am going to have to buy one just so I can through digs in when the out of the box White plow has some issues.....:wink
Mark Oomkes
03-03-2008, 05:14 AM
Mark
I know... not everything is a White Blizzard. I am going to have to buy one just so I can through digs in when the out of the box White plow has some issues.....:wink
Just remember, my 'digs' come with the experience of well over 30 seasons with Boss V plows. And you will also note that I've had many good things to say about the Boss plows as well. They just weren't for me anymore.
GMC Driver
03-03-2008, 05:29 AM
John,
What Keith and I are experiencing is with the new edges bought this year. They seem to wear quicker than the same edges bought in previous years. Seems like the composition of the edges has changed - the wear is noticeably different.
Other than that, as has been stated, these edges are wonderful - it's a shame it took so long for them to come to the market. I fought with the hoof problems for many years - what a PITA!!
John,
What Keith and I are experiencing is with the new edges bought this year. They seem to wear quicker than the same edges bought in previous years. Seems like the composition of the edges has changed - the wear is noticeably different.
Other than that, as has been stated, these edges are wonderful - it's a shame it took so long for them to come to the market. I fought with the hoof problems for many years - what a PITA!!
Dave. I am going to talk to a few people and see if i can get to the bottom of it and see if a batch went out with bad steel or something. seems like the excessive wear is isolated and i am just wondering if something went wrong on some of them.
Just remember, my 'digs' come with the experience of well over 30 seasons with Boss V plows. And you will also note that I've had many good things to say about the Boss plows as well. They just weren't for me anymore.
Mark
I understand buddy... Thats why i want a non modified white plow. I know better than say something about a product if i do not have a dog in the race. :D :wink I just wonder how many people would be in love with them if Jerre and Fred had not made the damn thing so bulletproof.:witch
Cornerstone
03-03-2008, 08:58 AM
I bought a new V at the beginning of last season that had the new style edges on them. They were run until the end of this January and off and I think that close 55 runs if not more. I put replacements on and they have around 15 runs on them, as of right now they aren't showing any wear. But its hard to compair the 2 because we were running alot of hard pack this year and wings were added to that plow for our commercial accounts.
One contractor I talked to bought a new plow at the beginnging of this season and has less than a 1/2'' left.
Personally, I would rather run the formed edges than the older style that have the hoof. They wear more evenly and scrape much better. If they have to be replaced more often, oh well. I look at it as a cost of doing business.
Earthscapes
03-03-2008, 10:53 AM
Personally, I would rather run the formed edges than the older style that have the hoof. They wear more evenly and scrape much better. If they have to be replaced more often, oh well. I look at it as a cost of doing business.
I agree with you too, but $800 a season for cutting edges on one plow is a bit extreme, when I'm doing less plowing "myself" then I have in the past. This wasn't meant to start any arguments or anything, I was just wondering if others here were having the same issue. All my buds bought these edges last year when I told them how great they worked. We have 20 sets out between us (some guys have 5 or 6 V plows) and I'm the only one who replaced them this season. Their edges are still wearing well after approx 38 runs and they will need new edges for next season. We were scratching our heads the other day looking at how bad mine were wearing this time around.
I talked to Boss today and they swear the materials have not changed, but also admitted the calls have been coming in about bad wear. They said talk to the dealer and see if they will help ya out, as I guess the markup on edges is sickening............
Cornerstone
03-03-2008, 04:46 PM
Keith, I understand the point that you are trying to make. I am in kinda the same situation that you are in. A buddy of mine replaces a couple of his V plow edges with the new ones and still has 3/4 of the edges lets after running them all this season doing all commercial properties. Then like I said earlier another guy had brand new edges on a new blade and now has almost nothing left. Make you want to believe there was a bad batch somewhere that got released.
wmhlc
03-04-2008, 03:32 AM
I have two sets of the new style, ran all season and you can't even really see any wear. But then one of my subs has the new style, has about 15 events on them, and they are toast. Has to be a bad batch, I bought mine in the summer.
Thats what I have been saying. The number of edges with issues seems sporadic and isolated. The number of edges out there vs the number of issues seems to lend itself toward a bad batch of steel getting into the mix. Go to your dealer and tell him that the issues seem to be with a small number of edge sets and see if he won't go to bat with Boss for you. Might be nice to knowe the serial numbers of the guys having issues and maybe they can pinpoint the batch.
Mark Oomkes
03-04-2008, 03:48 AM
I talked to Boss today and they swear the materials have not changed, but also admitted the calls have been coming in about bad wear. They said talk to the dealer and see if they will help ya out, as I guess the markup on edges is sickening............
Well, that's a pleasant change from what mfg's used to say: "You're the first one to ever have that problem" or "We've never heard of that issue before".
Way to step up to the plate Boss. :salute
Now, why would they have to work with the dealer? Why not just tell the dealers that there was some bad steel and tell them to replace any that have had issues?
Well, that's a pleasant change from what mfg's used to say: "You're the first one to ever have that problem" or "We've never heard of that issue before".
Way to step up to the plate Boss. :salute
Now, why would they have to work with the dealer? Why not just tell the dealers that there was some bad steel and tell them to replace any that have had issues?
Mark
I am not saying that Boss should not do that. But as you and I know if we have a problem with a product we usually feed it back up through the dealer network and have them take it to the mfg. If I have a problem with my vehicle I do not go to DC with it. I go to my dealer and have them go to DC with it until I do not feel that they are working in MY best interest. With multiple dealers bringing issues back to Boss I am sure they will look into it further. The dealer would have the serial numbers for the units and could show Boss that there is an issue with a certain lot of plows. Just my .02
Mark Oomkes
03-04-2008, 04:19 AM
Let me clarify John. Boss should be sending out a TSB or service bulletin informing dealers that there is an issue. Because you know as well as I do that there will be a bunch of dealers that will BS their customers about never hearing about it, you're the only one with an issue, etc.
Let me clarify John. Boss should be sending out a TSB or service bulletin informing dealers that there is an issue. Because you know as well as I do that there will be a bunch of dealers that will BS their customers about never hearing about it, you're the only one with an issue, etc.
Mark
I understand the TSB and all. Just thinking that all dealers would raise the issue to BOSS to keep happy customers... Oh Wait... I am not in Kansas any more Toto:witch
I tend to probably be more of a customers advocate than the manufacturers when things go bad.
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