How do you charge for deicing?

[ratlover]

How do you charge for a majority of your contracts?

Edit: Poll question dosnt realy sound like it but also for traction aids like sand, cinders or what ever.

[wmhlc]

I have a mix of all three. 60% by the app. 30% by the amount, and 10% by the season.

[cat320]

Well I would add one more to the list per application that is how i charge.

[hlntoiz]

Always will be per application for me. Yearly contracts or not.

[Earthscapes]

Dang, I hit the wrong button, should of been= Per occurance, not Per amount.

[Alan]

You guys who charge by the ton, what are you gonna do when the Weights & Measures Dept. decides they would like to look over your scale tickets for material sold?

I assume you all have certified scales.

It could happen.

[T-Zab]

I have per season, and per application. The per applications are usually the same price as plowing 1-3". Seems to work out well, and pays well too :cash

[Mark Oomkes]

You guys who charge by the ton, what are you gonna do when the Weights & Measures Dept. decides they would like to look over your scale tickets for material sold?

I assume you all have certified scales.

It could happen.

Kiss my ass goodbye! :o

Great question Alan. That's why it would be nice if you'd get your butt in gear on that counter thing. :grinz It would also help weed out the guys who "charge $65\ton for salt" then bill out 2 tons as 1 ton.

Should add one for all 3. That's where I'm at. Majority of mine are per season, now. All by customer request.

Rick, pretty sure the per occurrence is the same as per application.

[Jared in MT]

I do my sand billing by the yard, roughly. When potential customers ask "how much do you charge?" I can tell them X / yd. Some driveways take 1/2 yard, some 2. When I'm done, you can drive it in 2wd. I tend to give a break if they take a full 2 yards unless I drive 30 miles to get there.

[Tileman]

I'm one of them guys who charge by the ton/100# increments. Not realy by choise but it just kind of happend. This industral complex has growen from about 35 mins of plowing to over 5 hrs in 6years. About 4 years ago the installed a set of scales to scale in and out semi trucks. As they have growen each year so has the blacktop. It has been real hard to try and get a good pricing on this property each year it keeps changing to much.

So its being done x amout per hr to plow, and x amount per ton for salt. Yes I have the hr rate and the salt rate high enough to make good money.

At this point I know just about how much its going to take each time I'm there.
Plus I'm buying my salt from my subs, so I know how much I'm using and need to pay them. One thing I have found over the years is each load does not weigh the same. Wet damp salt will weigh more than dry salt.

Yes I could change how I am charging them but then they start to add more lot to be covered. Maybe some day they will stop growing and we can set rates for per app. but at this time on this lot it works for both parties.

I do others that are per app. But they are always a given amout of lot to cover.

[Alan]

One thing I have found over the years is each load does not weigh the same. Wet damp salt will weigh more than dry salt.

It sounds like you are running over the scales before and after. That's a world of difference than the guys who somehow manage to bill out 4 tons from a 1 1/4 yd vee box.

I know that here in VT it's a wide open opportunity for the state weights division to get their teeth into it. All it's going to take is one customer to ask for a weight ticket that matches his bill, then when that doesn't happen, go to W & M with a complaint. They have the clout to subpoena your records. Somebody is not gonnabe a happy camper when the people that write citations find out that not only does Joe not have trade legal scale tickets but he bought 50 tons and billed out 100.

[dchr]

Always will be per application for me. Yearly contracts or not.

Ditto-exactly the same here

[CGSI]

You guys who charge by the ton, what are you gonna do when the Weights & Measures Dept. decides they would like to look over your scale tickets for material sold?

I assume you all have certified scales.

It could happen.

Alan... I charge by the YARD which equals a ton but weights and measures can't touch that one. we use a 1/2yard water level bucket to load

[snowhawk1]

per occurence , makes sense, makes $ $ love your credo 1 and done with the Muslim Bitch!

[Brent Offerman]

It depends on the account. Small is set price per spread, Large by the ton or 100# units.

[Brent Offerman]

Depends on the account. Smaller set price per accurance, Larger per unit.
weight is not the issue for larger accounts. When salt came in in August it weighed X-2 yd 0r X-4 yard. Reguardless of what it weighs now dont matter to me. Fear is fear. a yard is a yard, IT did'nt expand It didnt contract it just weighs more. As far as im concerned it should be sold by the yard.
Buy in Aug. do ok. Buy in Dec. cry all you want. My costumers get what they paid for in Aug. thats that. If you are not capable of this theory then go back to bagged. But a bag is X-amount of cubic inches also, and if it sits out side its gaining weight Im sure of that. If the DOT is what your worried about then get a smaller box, with in the gvw. range.

[hlntoiz]

When I buy, my Magic Dealer has a scale system in his Skidsteer. he loaded me today. He knows exactly what he is buying and selling. Buy by the ton sell by the ton. Works for me. It is about as fair as you can get.

As for applying, per application for me. Set price when I do a complete salt at thier property. A seperate price for "spot" salting. Cheep customers don't get generousity as the better paying ones. Meaning I just do not go the extra mile for cheep paying Customers.