Jan 25 & 26 2004 Mid Atlantic & NE Snow

[BRL]

Looks like a decent storm will materialize for the Mid Atlantic for Sun\Mon. I'll be hoping for a more northern track than what they are thinking now ;-) Good thing with this one is there will be a high to the north to help keep the cold air in here, so we shouldn't be seeing ice like the similar system last Sunday. Here is Gary Gray's first stab at it.

http://millenniumweather.com/winter/snowmap.html

[jt5019]

All the local weather guys say next week is gonna take a snowy turn starting sunday night so i expect the snow line should move up a but higher then what they are showing right now.

[snowplowjay]

Thats a terrible snow forecast as far as us NE guys are concerned :(


:(


Hopefully the CT weather guys are right in that they see a snowy pattern for us next week :D



Jay

[SunServicesLLC]

Its about time we get more than you guys up there!
But i doubt that will happen.. our local news is saying 2-4 with a mix I can't wait!!!!

[BWhite]

That snow needs to be pushed a bit northward :headwall

[Adams Plowing]

it definatly needs to move north a bit so that we can get more than the less than 1 or 1 to 2 forcast... although he hasent been right on any of our forcasts yet this year...

[CraftyBigDog]

Man its perfect for me finally I get something and get to use that Boss I bought:D

[WoofsPlow]

That storm will move in new england on Monday night into Tuesday. Can somone post a forcast graph for monday-tuesday? Thanks:)

[jt5019]

The local weather guys are showing snow for connecticut on monday and tuesday with a possible change to ice on the shoreline tuesday.This morning when i woke up the public works was hauling away all the snowpiles and cleaing up the edges of the street in my neighborhood with a big loader and dump trucks.They usually dont dont that unless something is brewing or they have nothing better to do.:)

[W-n-K Landscaping]

I have been at it from 7am yesterday morning- only managed a 20 min nap so far- we have gotten anywhere from 2-3 feet of snow and it has not stopped yet!! Lake effect is great- unless you get it all at once LOL!

I have one more commercial account to hit, then I am going to crash for a couple of hours- will post pics in other forum soon. You guys can keep this storm- PLEASE!!! I need a day to catch up on sleep- then it can snow, they are already talking more lake effect for next week!!

Bill

Where's the Zzzzzzzzz..... Smiley?

[Pelican]

The Weather Channel has revised this forcast. They now predict snow, Sunday through Wednesday for my area! No word of accumulation yet.

They say there's a good chance of a Nor'Easter following that on Friday into Saturdey.

Saddle up, boys!!!

[roblandscape]

Its going to be a good week!!!!!!!!!!!:burnout :burnout

[jakegypsum]

Bring it on! :cool: We are ready! Jake.

[76chevyman]

Well we better get prosnow and snowplowjay doing the snow dance at hooters saturday and maybe get some of the girls there to help. add the female touch to it LOL. and ge tthe Twins involved. LMFAO

Rich:burnout

[BRL]

"Can somone post a forcast graph for monday-tuesday?"

Woofsplow,
Its actually rare to see a graphic this far in advance. The "Tuesday Event" is a separate system that may or may not be spawned from the Sun\Mon system. When it gets closer & seems like it really may happen, then forecasters will post such graphics. I wouldn't anticipate seeing any for that storm until this one is just about underway, so not until Sunday or Monday probably. That event will be a coastal storm that could bring a good snow to the NE.

I have seen a few forecasters mention "around" the 31st, and I believe this is the NorEaster Pelican is talking about. In between the Sunday - Tuesday events & that potential one, they are thinking a few Alberta Clippers will roll through. And a few people have mentioned seeing good things for February including potential Nor Easter's!! What a winter is shaping up for our area :grinz :cash :shades

[BWAMX]

Woofsplow,
The NWS posted a SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT for US
southen Ct

ALL IN ALL...THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR A SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATION OF
SNOW SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY...HAMPERING TRAVEL CONDITIONS FOR THE
BEGINNING OF THE NEW WORK WEEK. HOWEVER...CHANGES IN THE TRACK OR
INTENSITY OF THE LOW COULD RESULT IN CHANGES TO THE FORECAST. IF THE
LOW TAKES A MORE NORTHERLY TRACK...A WINTRY MIX WOULD BECOME MORE
LIKELY MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT. IF THE LOW TRACKS FARTHER
SOUTH...THE HEAVIEST SNOWFALL MAY SHIFT SOUTH OF THE AREA

We'll see if it tracks further north.

Iv'e also heard about a possible bigger storm at the end of next week.

Hey we have had a week off now, and JAY and BILL will dance Tomorrow , I"LL SEE to IT!
:D

[snowplowjay]

Im getting ready to lace up my dancing shoes, hop in the 350 and drive up to H(*)(*)TERS and do the snow dance :)




Jay

[Dan725]

Saturday: Becoming partly cloudy later with any flurries or snow showers ending by noontime. Cold. High 22F. Winds NNW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 30%.
Saturday night: Mainly clear skies. Cold. Low 4F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph.
Sunday: Sunshine along with some passing clouds. Cold. High 22F. Winds light and variable.
Sunday night: Periods of snow. Low 11F. Winds light and variable. Chance of snow 70%. 2 to 4 inches of snow expected.
Monday (24 hours): Periods of snow. Highs in the mid 20s and lows in the upper teens.
Tuesday (24 hours): Cloudy and windy with snow. Highs in the upper 20s and lows in the mid teens.
Wednesday (24 hours): Windy with times of sun and clouds. Highs in the low 20s and lows in the low teens.

Report for Morris County NJ alittle better than nothing. But then again it's still 48hrs away so what do they know. :cash

[Coldblue]

there calling for 3 to 5 in ohio on sun. im recooping after the 14 hr day we had fri night into sat. ( my feet hurt from doing the snow dance!)

[phillyplowking1]

Philadelphia,PA

The National Weather Service has issued a winter storm watch from Sunday night in to Monday Morning for 5 to 9 inches of snow mixing with sleet and some freezing Rain.

[Dockboy]

Well, we got about 1.5" last night from the clipper. Went out and plowed most of my acounts only to prepare for tomorrow! Didn't want to deal with a packed down , crusty, lumpy mess under the 5-9" they are calling for:rolleyes: ;)

I've got the heater running out in the garage right now so I can cut an edge into the new type 2 u-edge I got. I'll install it tomorrow:D

Looks like we'll be busy for the next couple days plowing! payup

[haryhood]

OK How about the Boston area , Ive had a new Curtis since the 2nd week of dec and nothing has happened yet worth doing..hopefully be able to do something w/this up coming storm.:headwall

[BOUNDS-ELECTRIC]

Its about time! This might be our first push! Brand new western V! Think I might get to use it! Do I put the plows on or will that jynx it! I like to be ready, but will it make the snow go north!

[BRL]

LOL Bounds, sometimes we really gotta wonder about that. Many times I've said "I knew I shouldn't have mounted the plows last night!" or " Why didn't I mount the plows last night!" LOL
:headwall

Anyway, Gary has updated his map, for the better for many ;) That map includes the possible secondary & separate low that may form Monday - Tuesday, so that's why his totals have increased. My NWS is saying for here 4"-7" total between Sunday nights snow, and then Monday nights snow sleet freezing rain then back to snow event. Time will tell.

[BRL]

And for another perspective of guesses, here is Accuweather.com's map through Sunday 7:00 PM.

http://wwwa.accuweather.com/adcbin/public/headlines.asp?iws=1

[JCurtis]

NYC local weather ( Channel 7 )WABC 11:05 pm


just stated that the cold air mass from Canada may be stronger than they expected, and that this may force the snow accumulations of up to 3 inches or more south of NYC, and lesser amounts north of NYC.

This was just the early teaser at the beginning of the newcast, the full weather is yet to come.

[jt5019]

I heard the same, but they say there is still a chance for plowable snow coming tuesday with a second low that may track closer.This is gonna be one of the ones you just gotta wait and watch out the window.

[JCurtis]

That fits right in with my original idea for a weather website...

www. Lookoutyergoddamnwindowforweather.com

I still say thats the best idea.

looks like whatever we get may start monday night into tuesday, unless this one goes away down south too !!!

[SunServicesLLC]

DOCKBOY... let me know how that edge works out. Just ordered one for one of my plows
Brian

[snowplowjay]

MDB Landscaping and myself were just chatting and we noticed that NBC 30 is calling for at least a foot for CT Tuesday into Wednesday at this point :D



Jay

[paponte]

I don't know about this one. Gary Grey just changed is snowfall totals, and says Long Island is only in the 1-2" range. I think I'm going with my gut on this one, and saying about 6". Have to agree with the lookoutyourdamnwindow site! We'll just have to be ready and wait. :cool:

[Coldblue]

http://images.ibsys.com/sh/images/weather/auto/radarb4_loop_640x480.gif

heres where its at right now. i wish it would hurry up.

[JCurtis]

Latest from Gary Gray @ Millenium Weather

http://www.millenniumweather.com/gifs/snowtot.gif

[Honest Mike]

Judging by that, where I am in NJ will get 4-8". :shades I dont know what to believe though, I just put on the Weather Channel amd they are saying 1-2" for my area. :confused: Thats a big difference in forecasts. The Weather Channel doesnt even have a Winter Storm Warning or Winter Weather Advisory up for my area, making it seem like whatever is on its way, is of no big deal. JCurtis, that is a great idea for a web site. :) Mike

[JCurtis]

Yeah, it seems to me that the weather guessers are all over the board on this storm.

I guess that we are going to have to wait and see with this one.

[Dockboy]

Originally posted by edshipp19
DOCKBOY... let me know how that edge works out. Just ordered one for one of my plows
Brian

Brian,

I cut in the edge and mounted the type 2. I can already tell it's going to be better just going out and wearing it the rest of the way in:D Barely(and i mean almost none) any chatter when the blade is straight and perpindicular to the truck on bare pavement;) Feels much closer to steel only quiet like urethane. When I first got the new edge, I thought to myself this is just as flexible as my type 1 untill I took the old edge off and it felt like a limp noodle:eek:

I'll let you know more tomorrow;)

[BRL]

"Judging by that, where I am in NJ will get 4-8". I dont know what to believe though, I just put on the Weather Channel amd they are saying 1-2" for my area. Thats a big difference in forecasts."

As I said in my posts, Gary's map includes both systems, Sun - Wed. The local NWS, et al, are giving predictions for the next 24 hours, and then tomorrow they will give their accumulation predictions for that next 24 hours. So with tonight's system being a 2"-4" for us, and Tuesday's system potentially being another 2"-4" event, that puts us at 4"-8" for gary's guesses ;). They are truly at a loss for the secondary (and a possible third) low forming tomorrow afternoon\night, so the predictions for this mess have been difficult at best.

What I haven't gotten is all of the Ct & Mass & Northern NY people I've seen post or say in chats that their local news forecasts have said a big storm for tonight for those areas. This was never the type of storm that might do that, so I can't figure out how they could say that. This has been predicted all along as a southern storm mixing with a clipper style air mass aimed at the Mid Atlantic, not the normal low that runs up the coast :beatsme . Now if the secondary low does form, that will ride up the coast and that could bring some nice snows to those areas, IF some cold air can stay in place aloft,but that would be a Monday\Tuesday event. But now they are thinking too much of the gulf moisture will pull in with the initial southern storm, so we may be dealing with lots of ice\sleet\rain closer to the coast before a final changeover to all snow on its way out Tuesday with the second system. I am hoping for (prediciting) a push tonight, & another one tomorrow night. Either way, it looks like we'll get at least a few salt runs in :cash Good luck to all who get some.

[JD PLOWER]

BRL I'm not sure when this started to trend into a big nor'easter but the latest ETA run that I've seen bombs this out BIG TIME off the coast of the cape and LI so we'll have to see how this shakes out.

Hoping not to get bombed again, too much trouble :headwall .

[BWAMX]

JD,
The latest weather chanel discussion .they have started to use the NOR-Easter line , and are throwing around 1FT amounts
for up by the Mass Pike.

They are also hinting / talking about the same thing for the end of the week.
Also the local news staions are echoing the same.

All wait and see situations.
6-8" NICE
1Ft + MORE WORK !

[NNJSnow]

Predicting the weather is like predicting who will win the lottery. Changes every 5 mins, first a dusting and sleet to 3-6 inches. Big Storm though.

[myoder]

I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed!!!:D I'll be happy with anything above 3" of snow.

[BRL]

OK Since I posted that, our area has been down graded from an advisory for tonight. SO the first event is a bust for here. But they are now putting their money on the technically 3rd low that will develop Tuesday into Tuesday night. That is the one that things are in place to make it become a potential classic winter Nor' Easter. :grinz So hopefully the Mid Atlantic gets some snow out of tonights event, because that bigger storm will miss their area Tues, but it has the potential to put out some decent snows on its way up the coast. So now my prediction for this area looks like maybe a push tomorrow AM but probably not, definitely a salt run. Then the second low will persist with light but PIA sleet & freezing rain Monday & Monday night that should equal a salt run or 2. Then Tuesday night a good push or 2 as this 3rd low gets cranking for real. :grinz :cash plowing!

[snowplowjay]

Chief Meteorologist Brad Field from NBC 30 in CT was just on the 6 o'clock news predicting 8 to 12" maybe more for Tuesday through Wednesday.


And he is usually pretty accurate.



Jay

[NNJSnow]

I hope your right Jay that would be great. I guess the second punch of the storm is what is really gonna effect the area. Monday, Tuesday i guess.

[digger242j]

For Pittsburgh, in the past 24 hours I've seen predictions ranging from 1"-2" up to 3"-7", and back down again. On the 6 o'clock news the weather guy on Pittsbugh's NBC affiliate said 2"-4", and he's thinking it'll be closer to the lower amount, but with sleet and freezing rain to follow. He says it'll be changing to the freezing rain around daybreak, but Accuweather has the change happening around 1 a.m. NWS, by the way, is still calling for 3"-5".

How the heck are you supposed to plan your night's work with information that's so lacking in consistency? :mad:

[cat320]

It can snow all it wants after 8 pm monday up in Boston.
after i'm up in the air on my to the town that never sleeps :D

[JD PLOWER]

Cat can you leave me the keys to the 580? :D

Have fun in Vegas, don't lose too much of that plowing money!

[cat320]

JD I should of asked you to come out with us Joey D can sub
for you:D .

[BWhite]

Channel 7 is backing off the snow amount 1-3 inland . Geez we need 3+

[WoofsPlow]

Around here they are leaving it open ended, 6+ inches is all they say - when they do that it's a good one!:D

[BRL]

Well Part 1 is over now. We got about .5" here. Woulda been more but we got hit with 2 different dry slots, so that dropped the accums here. Philly area & South Jersey did good with 3"-6" reported. I'm sure the MD, VA, & DE gang did well also, and they're probably still out working. Residual salt worked well in my biggest lots, especially where I had major ice problems from last Sunday's storm. So I did some partial saltings & a few complete saltings & the lots look great & should be OK through the day as the radar is showing Part 2 to start after evening maybe. Since Parts 2 & 3 are completely different from this event, I'm gonna start a new thread for those, and post a cool looking map that's out there ;).

[JD PLOWER]

The only thing I've learned from watching the locals and reading the sites is the track is very important (no kidding!) and a diffrence of less than 50 miles can make all the diffrence in the world. We could be anywhere from 3-6" to 10-20" maybe higher. This storm scares me in that the snow ratios could be 15.1 or maybe more and the forecast could change ALOT just from that.

Need to make a call on the loaders soon :headwall .

[cat320]

Sure I will be away as of tonight and we will be getting another big one where my 580 can be productive.:mad: why couldn't we have got this storm last week