Chuck Smith
06-14-2007, 07:31 PM
So back in 05, I went to the local stealer, and they tried to pull a fast one on me. Vowed to never go back. Bought a 1999 Jeep GC, and then the 05 Chrysler Town & Country from Warnock in East Hanover. So today I set out to get a new car/van/SUV. Went to Warnock. Checked NADA before I went to see what the van was worth. They said $15,400 with the 56,000 miles on it. I figured I owed about that. Get to Warnock, and they offer me $9700 for it on a trade:eek: :eek: Then after some haggling, I was getting $11,500 for it. I owed $12,800 on it. I explained that is all I wanted for it. No way. There was a thing on the write up that stumped me. It listed $4,150 deducted from the price they started at, of $14,593.... It went like this...
Base Book Value--$14,593
Minus
Safety, LOF ----$495
Detail ----------$198
Reconditioning --$4,150
Market -$43.00
Total Adjustments --- $4800
Trade Value ----$9,793
I asked what reconditioning was, he said it was because of the miles. I said for $4K I could put a new motor and trans in it! Keep in mind this was the same salesman that I bought the other 2 vehicles from. At the end, he told me to sell the van on eBay and come see him. Said to list it for $13,995, I said you will put it on your lot for $16K he said no, $14,995 :huh
So I walked. I won't be going back to Warnock any time soon....
I went to Franklin Sussex (where I swore I would never go) just to see what they offered. Right from the get go they offered $11,500 for the van. A much lower price to start on an 07 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Salesman was a straight shooter. Maybe because I told him right from the start that I walked out of there two years ago when looking for the van, maybe not. We ran some numbers, and I told him I would be back later with my wife to see what she thinks, as it will be her vehicle. While I was home, I found an online coupon for $250 off any vehicle there, I printed it, and then left it home :mad:
In the end, They gave me the $250 off, and after a closer inspection of the van, they gave me $11,700 for it. I might be a fool, but I went with the 0% financing instead of the $3500 rebate, with a loan at 5.99%. So I paid more now, but I think this way I will have paid more of it off when I go to trade it in two years, and we owe more than it is worth.
~Chuck
Base Book Value--$14,593
Minus
Safety, LOF ----$495
Detail ----------$198
Reconditioning --$4,150
Market -$43.00
Total Adjustments --- $4800
Trade Value ----$9,793
I asked what reconditioning was, he said it was because of the miles. I said for $4K I could put a new motor and trans in it! Keep in mind this was the same salesman that I bought the other 2 vehicles from. At the end, he told me to sell the van on eBay and come see him. Said to list it for $13,995, I said you will put it on your lot for $16K he said no, $14,995 :huh
So I walked. I won't be going back to Warnock any time soon....
I went to Franklin Sussex (where I swore I would never go) just to see what they offered. Right from the get go they offered $11,500 for the van. A much lower price to start on an 07 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Salesman was a straight shooter. Maybe because I told him right from the start that I walked out of there two years ago when looking for the van, maybe not. We ran some numbers, and I told him I would be back later with my wife to see what she thinks, as it will be her vehicle. While I was home, I found an online coupon for $250 off any vehicle there, I printed it, and then left it home :mad:
In the end, They gave me the $250 off, and after a closer inspection of the van, they gave me $11,700 for it. I might be a fool, but I went with the 0% financing instead of the $3500 rebate, with a loan at 5.99%. So I paid more now, but I think this way I will have paid more of it off when I go to trade it in two years, and we owe more than it is worth.
~Chuck