View Full Version : Plow Edge Xtendor- any one try them?
Mike Fronczak
03-03-2007, 05:40 AM
Has any body used these wear edges. Just put a new edge on one of my V plows ($ 350.00), complete with rubber & brackets. This is the second plow I've had to do this year, looking to try to reduce this. Claim to reduce edge wear by 400%. I will probably call them monday & see what they can do for me if I buy 5 sets. They are on Winter Equipment Company web site. Let me know what you think.
hlntoiz
03-03-2007, 05:42 AM
Where is the link?
GMC Driver
03-03-2007, 06:09 AM
Jerre has been using these as part of the "Erie" package - i have them on my 8611 and 810, and they have helped to reduce wear drastically.
Garagekeeper
03-03-2007, 07:47 AM
I have installed them for a few years now, the Xtendor's certainly "will" increase the life of your edges..
:rolleyes: John....
Jerre Heyer
03-03-2007, 08:48 AM
Mike, we've got them in stock. Let me know which V you have for hole spacing if you want some sets. Call me for more info. Jerre
hlntoiz
03-03-2007, 09:57 AM
Can someone please attach a link or a pic to show me what they are?
Thanks
Mike Fronczak
03-03-2007, 11:30 AM
Do a google search under "Winter Equipment Company" that's where I found them. Jerre I'll call Monday, wrote down your number, there for Fisher 8'6" EZV's (4 blades MM1 &2's), & one for a 9' straight Fisher HD series MM1.
Jerre Heyer
03-03-2007, 11:44 AM
Matt and Mike, there's a link to Winter on my site.
Jerre
chtucker
03-03-2007, 04:53 PM
I have used them on my Boss, they worked GREAT. I got mine custom punched for the 10'v. With the new style boss edges, they don't seem to make sense though. I will also add that winter equipment sells the best edge bolts that I have bought, no loosening up and no breakage.
gordyo
03-03-2007, 05:11 PM
They are well worth the money. I run extendors on the 8'6" Fisher EZ-V, the 8' straight Fisher and I run their Plowguard Jr's on the two 9' Fishers and the 10' Henke loader plow.
Jerre
What do a set go for for a Boss 8'2" V
Why cant I seem to get on to Jerres website? Anyone have more info or pictures of these?
Garagekeeper
03-04-2007, 05:54 AM
Here is the link to Winter Equipments web site.
www.winterequipment.com
:rolleyes: John...
snowmatt13
03-04-2007, 06:17 AM
Mike,
We use them on all of our Western plows and find that they do work. Acutal percentage of savings....maybe not 400%, but here's my example..... We have an F-450 with a Wetern 10 foot heavy-weight. We would go through 2 edges per season. We put those on and we got almost 2 full seasons out of the last edge. Not sure on exact number but well over 1000 miles.
hlntoiz
03-04-2007, 06:44 AM
Here is the link to Winter Equipments web site.
www.winterequipment.com
:rolleyes: John...
Thanks John,
Jerre I will have to pick some up for my 810 :blizzard and my 9.5:yellowv: when I come to the GTG!:grinz
jbutch83
03-04-2007, 07:07 AM
Thanks John,
Jerre I will have to pick some up for my 810 :blizzard and my 9.5:yellowv: when I come to the GTG!:grinz
Put me on that list for one for my 810 in April also.:D
What does this do, keep the corners from rounding? Anyone have a picture of this product installed?
Wizard
03-04-2007, 07:38 PM
What does this do, keep the corners from rounding? Anyone have a picture of this product installed?
They're carbide, and they slow down the wear on the cutting edges. I have noticed no wear on my edges and have almost a full season on them. See the first post in this thread (http://www.letstalksnow.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13277) for a picture of mine.
Mark Oomkes
03-05-2007, 04:20 AM
I'm going to have to try some of these as well. I'm going through edges pretty quickly on my LP's and even the SpeedWing.
J, check your IM's, you'll get a good laugh.
Pickering Snow
03-05-2007, 07:46 AM
Iam sold has well on the winters in the begining Jerre was using doubled Blizzard edges but has since switched to the carbides Erie #40 my speed wing is holding up well they wear really well a must have item .
My 10 foot main plow on the F-550 runs a full carbide overlay along with a stock edge and that wears real slow
jbutch83
11-08-2007, 01:14 PM
Who has these is stock, can I get a price, and how do the mount on the 810. If there is an issue with posting price, please send me a PM.
Thanks
Jerre Heyer
11-08-2007, 01:17 PM
Got them in stock, $150 shipped, Weld then to the wing edges.
J
Pickering Snow
11-08-2007, 03:02 PM
Heres a set on the Speed wing.
Mark Oomkes
11-09-2007, 03:05 AM
Got them in stock, $150 shipped, Weld then to the wing edges.
J
What are you talking about? You can't weld carbide to steel?
Jerre Heyer
11-09-2007, 04:20 AM
You might not be able to but I can .....LMAO:popcorn2:popcorn2
Arc Burn
11-09-2007, 07:55 AM
You might not be able to but I can .....LMAO:popcorn2:popcorn2
So your not gonna tell him it's only carbide at the bottom and side wear edge:cool::D
Jerre Heyer
11-09-2007, 09:11 AM
SHHHHHH.......:grinz
Fastjohnny
11-09-2007, 09:31 AM
Jerre, IIRC, the erie special 810's I have seen either at the GTG or in pictures just had part of the wing covered? VS Fred's speedwing covering the whole edge?
On one of my used 810's I have a new main cutting edge, but the wings I was gonna double up with pieces of my old center edge. But if I could go with a carbide winter product that would cover the whole wing edge, and slow overall wear, that would be a superior way to go.
Does that sound right?
Jerre Heyer
11-09-2007, 10:19 AM
You can use just the extenders that go up the edge and across the bottom section or you can use 6", 8", 12" or 18" sectional pieces for the wings. We do combinations depending on what they guys are doing with the plow
J
Mark Oomkes
11-09-2007, 11:20 AM
You can use just the extenders that go up the edge and across the bottom section or you can use 6", 8", 12" or 18" sectional pieces for the wings. We do combinations depending on what they guys are doing with the plow
J
Or you can not have a choice in the matter and you just get what Thomas gives you so you (I) can be a guinea pig. :grinz :grinz
Arc, what are you trying to say? You saying J wasn't truthful? :eek:
Arc Burn
11-09-2007, 11:34 AM
Arc, what are you trying to say? You saying J wasn't truthful? :eek:
:huh:D Truthfull is such a vauge word,it can be interpreted in many ways:rolling
Pickering Snow
11-09-2007, 03:01 PM
Or you can not have a choice in the matter and you just get what Thomas gives you so you (I) can be a guinea pig. :grinz :grinz
Arc, what are you trying to say? You saying J wasn't truthful? :eek:
Mark your no guinea pig with them however i will say they look nice and BTW keep dogs away from them that orange somehow attracts i think my dog must have relived herself on your plow at least 6 times that saturday i was there.
jbutch83
11-09-2007, 03:41 PM
Mark your no guinea pig with them however i will say they look nice and BTW keep dogs away from them that orange somehow attracts i think my dog must have relived herself on your plow at least 6 times that saturday i was there.
Was that paybacks for getting your shorts dirty on the trip.:D
Mark Oomkes
11-10-2007, 02:13 PM
Fred, I was referring to the differing lengths on the edges to see what works best\lasts longest. Out of 4 plows, I think there was 3 different lengths of carbide bottoms and side. ;)
PS I love the new signature. I think I'm going to steel it and add it to mine as well.
Jerre Heyer
11-10-2007, 02:42 PM
Mark,
Well we couldn't think of a more competent test pilot program manager. Your feed back ( though sometimes twisted out of context ) is revered in the industry and can be seen dragging plows all over the country:wink
J
P.S. Fred does that come in carmel color? Send me the link please. Thanks J
littleplows
12-04-2007, 08:03 PM
Chtucker What Do you mean
"With the new style boss edges, they don't seem to make sense though."
are you talking about the new curved edges?? Winter makes a Curbguard style that does a semi rounded edge or just put the Plowguard on to extend the life on your tips...
littleplows
12-04-2007, 08:09 PM
Or you can not have a choice in the matter and you just get what Thomas gives you so you (I) can be a guinea pig. :grinz :grinz
Well what did you expect to get when you tell me " Hey just do what you do and make em right"
That leaves me free to experiment a little don't it...............
Chtucker What Do you mean
"With the new style boss edges, they don't seem to make sense though."
are you talking about the new curved edges?? Winter makes a Curbguard style that does a semi rounded edge or just put the Plowguard on to extend the life on your tips...
littleplow
what cgtucker was referring too is the curb guards built in and the 2X wear resistant steel that is used in those edges. Also if you run a boss V you can elimenate the puck (which could be troublesome)with the new edges as well
Mark Oomkes
11-14-2008, 03:41 AM
Dave\GMC Driver\Wooden Shoe plower linked to this thread, so how's about an update?
After a full test of varying lengths of carbide edges, doubled edges, etc; my vote is for the Xtendors on the edge as a curb guide and full wing length carbide on the bottom. Last year we had 1 standard 8611 that had just the Xtendors that is into the moldboard (this one sees a little more plowing time than the other, but not much) J I NEED another set and one as I stated above with the full length carbide on the wings. This one has approx 3/4" of life left in it.
Doubled up wing edges burn down pretty quickly on the standards, fare somewhat better on the LP's. I'll have to try the Xtendors on an LP to see how they do on one of those.
I am also doing the urethane edges on the wings and steel in the middle to see how long that lasts as well.
I have also tried some doubled up main edges along with the wings. Seems like this is rather pointless because if you can extend the life of the wing edges, the main edge will not wear down as fast.
Sorry for not being able to provide exact hours like Fred does, but we were in the neighborhood of 30 pushes on these 2 plows last year between storms and cleanups.
The test this year will be to see how Tom's upgrades will hold up on wings and slide boxes. :grinz :wink I'm hoping for no more pretzel's, I was sick of those last year. :eek:
Fastjohnny
11-14-2008, 04:00 AM
Mark, so then the thing to do on an 8611 is a set of extendors, then a set of the 9 inch plow guard jr's to cover the whole wing edge? Are your guys running in scoop most of the time?
Sounds like to protect the main edge, the best solution is some carbide close to the inside edge of the wing to carry the plow weight and extend the life of the main edge?
Jerre Heyer
11-14-2008, 04:42 AM
Nah the best thing to do is to run the 1/2 " main and the 1/4" wing edges with no protection the we get to ship more cutting edge sets out.:wink:wink:D
Mark Oomkes
11-14-2008, 04:45 AM
Mark, so then the thing to do on an 8611 is a set of extendors, then a set of the 9 inch plow guard jr's to cover the whole wing edge? Are your guys running in scoop most of the time?
Sounds like to protect the main edge, the best solution is some carbide close to the inside edge of the wing to carry the plow weight and extend the life of the main edge?
Yes, if that's what Tom installed, wasn't really sure what it was called. I think it might the be the Plow Guard Straight that he used.
But yes, that seems to be the key, protect the main edge by extending the wing edge's life.
If the wing mods hold up, I'd like to try this setup on an LP. 2 seasons maybe?????
Fastjohnny
11-14-2008, 05:08 AM
Nah the best thing to do is to run the 1/2 " main and the 1/4" wing edges with no protection the we get to ship more cutting edge sets out.:wink:wink:D
How 'bout 3/8" main like the first 810's used, extra brittle. :rolleyes:
Mark Oomkes
11-14-2008, 10:43 AM
How 'bout 3/8" main like the first 810's used, extra brittle. :rolleyes:
I think I got 20 hours at best out of my first edge on a standard 8611. :eek:
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