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WoofsPlow
11-13-2003, 05:12 AM
I just purchased (it's shipping now) a Buyers "SUV" spreader with the in-cab flow control feature. Does anybody have this unit? Does Morton Solar Salt work well in this unit? For that matter does rock salt work? I don't want to spend a plow night in the back of the truck kicking the hopper. Cost and driveway application was the reason I purchased this unit. Thanks:)

pro property
11-13-2003, 08:25 AM
Not sure if its the same one. I know a fellow that just baought one.
He got it at canadian tire... they had them on sale...It holds 300 pounds of salt I believe. HE hasnt tried it yet, but did commment it seemed good for small applications....His doesnt have any speed control. Just one setting...


:canada

WoofsPlow
11-13-2003, 09:04 AM
Thanks pro property, I was going to get the one your friend got but I finally decided on the flo-conrtol unit. Basically the same unit except different motor/housing and can through out 30' rather than 10'. I got mine through Northern Tool for $600 and was able to do monthly payments of $100. Let me know when your friend uses for the first time to see how it worked. Thanks again
:D

JCurtis
11-13-2003, 09:20 AM
Just a quick question.... Isn't the solar salt more expesive that say Halite or another bagged salt brand.

I know we used to use it for our water softeners at my former employer, and it was more $$$$ than other bagged salt.

We did use it on the rare occassion were we ran out of the other stuff. It has much larger granules.

WoofsPlow
11-13-2003, 10:37 AM
I just finished pricing the bagged salt locally. For $3.88 I can get 40lbs of the solar salt. For $5.00 I can get 50lbs of rock salt. I want to do a mix of salt and sand bagged sand is going for $2.50 for 50 lbs. To fill my 300# hopper with 50/50 mix would cost about $23.00!I am not even sure how long that would last based on a specific feed rate. I can also pick up per-mixed 50/50 bulk salt/sand mix for $30 per ton. My concern is it turning rock hard and becoming useless. Any suggestions on keeping it in good shape. It might be worth getting the bulk and hoping it lasts a few storms, I could keep the bagged stuff in the back as back-up/ballast. Thanks all

BRL
11-13-2003, 03:44 PM
I believe the spreader you are talking about is a single stage unit. Unless the sand stays perfectly dry, you will probably have a hard time getting mix to work. Definitely don't use the pre mixed bulk. Solar salt is usually more expensive than rock salt, and I believe not as effective as rock salt for deicing. Surprised to see you post you can get the solar a penny\pound cheaper. I'd rather spend the extra 50 cents per bag to use the correct material for the application.

WoofsPlow
11-14-2003, 04:05 AM
Any idea on spread rate? I will start with using the bagged rock salt. It will cost me $30 per load, I just don't want to dump it in 2 mins.payup

pro property
11-14-2003, 04:18 AM
I went through all this on #$%$#@ site... It seems too range alot... I guese it depends on the conditions.....I took an average of what people told me.. about 12 to 15 pounds of rock salt per 1000 sqfeet.....which is 540 pounds too 675 pounds of salt per acre....I hope this helps... I just got mine this year too. I havent actually had a chance too try it yet.

:canada :burnout

WoofsPlow
11-14-2003, 04:52 AM
Thanks, at a rate of 15lbs/1000sq.ft. that will give me about 2000 liniar feet of driveway. That will give me about 40 standard driveways. That works for me! pimp Thanks all

Plower737
11-14-2003, 05:30 PM
I have a buyers salter. I have the larger one. (600lbs) We use solar salt to apply. I tried using hailte or another product call kiln dried, but both were too fine. As soon as I shut the spreader off, the rest would still come out. I use solar salt from Agway. It's smaller than the pellet salt and larger than hailte. My cost is 5.00 per 50lb bag. I can do an average 10-15 car lot with about 3-4 bags. But I wouldn't run sand through it. Not with a single stage. 2 stage... sure no prob. Like others have said, sand will get nasty with even the slightest moisture.

pro property
11-14-2003, 06:59 PM
hey Plower737
you said average 10 to 15 .. is that 10 to 15 lots or one 10 to 15 space lot... per 3 to 5 bags....
thanks
mike:canada :burnout

Plower737
11-16-2003, 06:11 AM
I'd say 10-15 car parking lot. on average. Of course I have some with more and some with less. You know though, now that I think of it, I never really sat down and said, OK X lot takes how many bags? I just fill the spreader up and salt the place till I think its got enough. Which is better cause then the customer will be happy. But I averaged about a ton per run last year so I think everyone was getting the same amount everytime.

WoofsPlow
11-17-2003, 04:28 AM
My son and I installed the spreader last saturday. I had a bag of rock salt left over from last year so I through it in. On slowest speed it still seemed to be too fast and was throwing salt out I would guess 15 feet. I was loosing salt after shut down, I guess I will load on site and run until done. It seems to me that it could run sand I think I will go to my supplier and have him load it up and see how it does. The one thing I did not like was how low the motor was to the groud. I will need to build some sort of steel cage to protect it. Thanks:D

Plower737
11-17-2003, 06:51 PM
Yea woofs, rock salt maybe too fine to leave in after your done. I had that problem. Thats why I chose solar salt. Its a little bigger so when I'm done salting a lot, I shut it off and no more comes out. And what are you hooking the spreader to? (vehicle) I had to make mounts for mine because of the weight of salt and bouncing on bumps wore out the reciever part of the spreader. The way it is now, I can back up to a curb and not worry about the motor getting hit.

Plower737
11-17-2003, 06:54 PM
the lst was the new way.. here is the old way...

WoofsPlow
11-18-2003, 04:24 AM
Plower737 - The design has changed and now it goes right into the 2" receiver. The part I dont like is it just hangs there, I can see it bouncing and putting alot of strain on the hitch with 300# of salt in it. I have a home-made hitch that I rigged to the bumber. We welded some support bracing with flat bar and angle and it seems pretty stiff now. I would like to see some kind of support up high. I do like the fact that if you pull the pin on the spreader it folds right down to the ground so you can access the bed. As soon as I get a new digital camera I will be posting some pictures. Ever try the salt/sand mix? Thanks:)

BRL
11-18-2003, 06:14 AM
Check the installation instructions. The ones I've seen for that style of install said to put some ratchet straps from the top to the bed somewhere to help keep them from bouncing around too much.

WoofsPlow
11-18-2003, 06:37 AM
No, there was nothing like that that I could see.

Plower737
11-18-2003, 05:56 PM
I have the old style that goes into the reciever hitch. But like I said with the weight and bouncing after a couple of storms, or years, it'll wear out quickly. you say you have a home made hitch? What kind of vehicle are you using? I'd be carefull too if it's "rigged" to the bumper. 300lbs doesn't sound like much but after a short perioid of time that could start pulling on the bumper. I have never run anything else other that solar salt or sidewalk salt through my spreader. I'm not into experimenting and trying to make stuff work that really shouldn't. If the manufactuer says you should run bagged salt in that machine, then thats what you should use. The only way I can see you saving money on using less expensive products or bulk products is either getting a 2 stage tailgate spreader or a v- box for a pickup.

WoofsPlow
11-25-2003, 06:06 AM
Heres the Buyers set-up. I ended up adding a support at the top.
Also ran a sand test......FAILED! Got some some wet sand and loaded the hopper. The sand would not flow, needs vibrator. Had to try!:D

WoofsPlow
11-25-2003, 06:29 AM
oops

Snowboy
11-25-2003, 07:42 PM
WoofsPlow

I was gona go the saw route as you are with the tailgate spreader but i read alot on the old site and this one plus dealers that bulk salt isnt a good idea in those units. Bulk is bigger grains of salt plus its wet ususly.

I heard useing bulk in the units developed for bagged will burn out the motor. Depending on how the salt get down to the spinner,paddle, wheel whatever its called it clogs up aka bridge's.

I dont know 1st just what i have read up on while looking at what to buy.

Dave.

mmwb
02-22-2006, 12:30 PM
I know this is an old thread, but I'm going to bring it to the top. For those looking at the small, hitch mounted Buyer's spreaders; there are two models of the size shown above. One is currently running about $450, the other around $650. After talking to someone at buyers, I was informed of the differences between them. The capacity is the same 300 lbs, but the more expensive model has the heavier motor they use in the larger models, has a harness to run directly to the battery (the other apparently plugs into the cigarette lighter), variable speed control, and an auger to assist feed. Just FYI for those looking. Sounds like the differences would be worth the extra $200 for any light commercial use.

WoofsPlow
03-01-2006, 03:40 AM
I am selling mine it's the model with the cab control. I used it two seasons, mostly for just one account that I no longer service. Did not use it at all this season:wah If anybody is interested let me know I'm asking $150.00. Thanks, Jim

Pickering Snow
09-18-2006, 07:56 AM
Woofsplow do you still have that spreader that was on the back of the toyota? Next does that have a hinge pin at the bottom to allow acess to the rear tailgate and again what model is that ?


Did it throw father than 10 feet? old thread i know but looking for answers, on these things.