Screw in tire.

[Snowboy]

I managed to pick up a screw in my tire tonight.

I am contemplating on fixing it myself with the plug stuff. You know the liquorish cord and the rasp and threader tool.

I also looked at the run flat stuff but they say you might have to clean up the stuff and I did not want to have to throw away a good tire cuz I used the crap in the can and might mess up the inside of the tire. The tire is one of my snow tires I bought last season.

I'm contemplating taking the tire to a tire shop to fix but will they do the same thing I was thinking of doing and plugging the hole with the repair kit or will they patch the inside of the tire? My trailer has a screw in it as well which needs to be fixed and I've also thought of taking it in to be fixed.

Which way should i go?

Dave.

[Adams Plowing]

I would just pay the $10 or $15 and go to a tire shop and have it done... if there doing it right they should break the tire down and plug it from the inside...

[Mark Oomkes]

If they're competent, they'll patch it. I've plugged many tires over the years with not too many problems, but I've also ruined a couple trying to plug it when it should have been patched.

I do still plug mower and equipment tires that aren't going fast, but I will usually have truck and trailer tires patched from now on.

[Snowboy]

Ok thanks, I'll see to it that they patch it.

Dave.

[GreenQuest Lawn]

Weekly occurrence here. I plug ALL my leaks. Buy a good plug kit and it will pay for itself many times over. If I had to pay 10-15.00 for every repair I would be broke.

When I was younger I had a friend that would take the screw out, put some silicone on a larger screw and screw it in.........lmao:scramble

[EIB]

I have plugged hundreds of tires with no problems. Just buy the good plugs and they will work fine. The only reason I would patch it from the inside is if the plug didn't seal.

[snowjoker]

I'm with Everett on this one, I have plugged many tires. On the farm its a daily thing....:geez Get the cord type plug and go that way dont use them rubber p.o.s. kits.. It's something easy enough to do, why waste $10-$15 on something you can do yourself ??? Plus keep it in your vehicle so you have it when needed.......

[Mark Oomkes]

I've plugged many as well, I have 3 of the good kits that I carry around in the trucks. But I also had to spend $100+ on a new tire after ruining it by trying to plug it.

That's why I stated I only plug equipment tires. Trucks and trailers get patched by the tire shop.

[wyldman]

Plugs work OK,but they sometimes leak or come out.

If your going to plug it,only use a good commercial grade plug,like Camel,or something a tire shop would use.DO NOT but a Canadian tire plug kit,it's garbage.

If these are on your Cooper M&S's,I would not recommend a plug,unless it's only temporary.Have it plugged and patched from the inside,as these tires are very soft.

[Pelican]

I've had pretty good luck with plugs through the years, I can only remember one time where I had one let go. I use the cord type soaked in rubber cement. The key is to twist the plug once you've inserted it, it knots up inside the tire and holds it in place.

[Snowboy]

Plugs work OK,but they sometimes leak or come out.

If your going to plug it,only use a good commercial grade plug,like Camel,or something a tire shop would use.DO NOT put a Canadian tire plug kit,it's garbage.

If these are on your Cooper M&S's,I would not recommend a plug,unless it's only temporary.Have it plugged and patched from the inside,as these tires are very soft.

I went to a tire shop today to get the tire fixed. I was told they will take the tire off. Plug it from the inside patch it reinstall tire on rim and balance it.

Now what they say and what they did I think are 2 different things.

I looked at what they did before I took off from the place and it looked as if they just put the cords in the tire. I have this stuff that looks like bubble gum on the top where the screw was. Tonight I had a chance to look at it better and I noticed that the wheel waits didn’t look new they were rusted there were waits on the outside of the rim as well as on the inside. I looked at my other tires and the wheel waits look the same rusted and untouched.

Ok I didn’t pay a fortune only $36 but still I would expect what is said on the bill to be done. I also do not want to look like an ass and go back saying you did not do the work you said you did. I obviously can’t look inside the tire. Unfortunately I also was unable to see what they were doing to why tire because the bays and in the back of the shop and you cannot look into the bays unless you stand in front of the shop. I didn’t think I had anything to worry about so I didn’t bother watching and I figured I was going to a professional and not Wal-Mart or crappy tire so thought I was home free.

What does a tire patch look like?

My Trailer also has a screw in it from last fall and I asked if they could fix it and they said no it installs diffrently then a car or truck tire and they cannot do it. No regular tire shop will do it they said.

Here are some pics i just went and shot of the tire.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/thegrassmn/Plow_stuff/th_100_1371.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/thegrassmn/Plow_stuff/100_1371.jpg)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/thegrassmn/Plow_stuff/th_100_1370.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/thegrassmn/Plow_stuff/100_1370.jpg)
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/thegrassmn/Plow_stuff/th_100_1367.jpg (http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f216/thegrassmn/Plow_stuff/100_1367.jpg)

[wyldman]

They probably used a "plug n patch".It's a vulcanizing patch,with a plug stuck to the center of it.It is inserted from the inside (plug goes into the hole),and then pulled through until the patch portion seals against the inside.

Tire does not need to be balanced afterwards,you just mark the tire at the valve stem to index it,and then reinstall in the same spot.

You should be able to see some bead lube around the tire from when they re-installed,and a chalk mark at the valve stem if the tire was off.

I wouldn't ever plug or patch a small trailer tire,they are too fragile.The only trailer tires that can be plugged or patched are the bigger style tires used on tandems and triaxles.

[Snowboy]

Ok and if i dont see any lube? Or chalk? The trailer tire is not like the ones you see at canadian tire. This should be the trailer tire Size: ST205/75R15 LRC. Are you saying I should replace the tire? I'm sure it will leak eventualy but it sat all winter no problems.

Dave.

[wyldman]

No lube,no chalk,I would safely assume it was never removed.

Only way to tell for sure is remove it and look inside.

Your trailer tire should be OK to patch,if it's done properly.

[Snowboy]

So now who can patch the trailer tire? Dont tell me Canadian tire?

Chris would they use the old weights if they supposedly re balanced the tire?

Dave.

[wyldman]

They don't usually rebalance a tire after a repair,that's why they mark them so they go back on in the same location.If you don't move the tire on the rim,no need to rebalance.

Did they say they were going to rebalance ? What tire shop ?

I can do the trailer tire next time your up this way.

[Snowboy]

Active Green + Ross Streetsville.

Tire Repair 1 Tire
Includes removal of tire from rim, install a proper plug/patch with correct vulcanization of tire. Install new valve stem assembly, and clean rim as required. Rebalance tire and reinstall on vehicle.

[GreenQuest Lawn]

wow, sorry dude, $36.00 thats almost 1/2 the price of a new tire (oh wait you are in CA eh?) still that seems REALLY high I would pay close to $1000 per year in tire repairs if I had them all patched......:wah

Ill stick with the .25 cent plugs. I have plugged hundreds of tires in my life and have only had a few leak and never had one fall out.

[Snowboy]

Well I'm just a little worried seeing as these are my snow tires and in case im pushing a heavy load and the rear tires break loose, so might the plug and then I've got to deal with changeing a tire.

I've got no problem paying the money as long as you do what you tell me your going to do.

[Pickering Snow]

Tech chemical company makes the best vulcanizing plug we carry there stuff and i have never had a plug pop i bet its a external plug .

[Chuck Smith]

In all the years I have been driving, I never had a vehicle that didn't have a tire plugged at one time. All were Camels, all the rusty color heavy duty type. Only had one leak, and it was in a Cooper Discoverer, after being in the tire for 3 years. I know there is not much comparisson, but my Giant Vac wheel blower has had a Camel plug in it for over 10 years, no leaks.

I just had one in my Jeep for a year, right on the crown (bad idea I know) that was supposed to be "temporary" until I got new tires before the winter, which ended up being a month ago. No leaks.

When I worked at Sears years ago, we always patched tires. I hated it. Half of them had Fix-a-Flat in them, and I got a bath when I broke the bead.

~Chuck

[Snowboy]

Well I took the truck and tire to a different tire dealer and they took the tire off the truck and tire off the rim and we found out it was a plug. He said it was a cheap one as well. The plug was a brown color.

They took the grinder out roughed up the area put some glue on and put a patch on. I took pictures with my cell phone to show the Original tire shop what I found.

The original tire shop invoice states they will install a proper plug/patch and under the labor heading they say plug patch vulcanization.

What does "/" mean. Would you interpret as plug or patch or plug and patch?

Dave.

[Pickering Snow]

Tech calls it a plug patch vulcanizing and honestly i have never had one fail so really its what i offer i have seen many internal patches roll off or like Chuck said get a face full of fix a flat so if they dont want a plug from me then they can go get a patch somewere else.


Most people dont complain to much when there setting on the highway with a flat has to wether iam gonna break there tire down or not.

Camel plugs i have used in a bind and i have been seeing alot of camel toe lately but all this talk about plugs and patches and camel toe have me wondering are we working on a tire

[Pelican]

This thread has turned in to a joke!!:headwall

[wyldman]

I looked at the tire yesterday, and it didn't look like it had been off. Go back to the original shop and get your money back, or chalk it up as a learning experience.

Next time bring it to me first. :D

[wyldman]

I looked at the tire yesterday, and it didn't look like it had been off. Go back to the original shop and get your money back, or chalk it up as a learning experience.

Next time bring it to me first. :D

[Mark Oomkes]

This thread has turned in to a joke!!:headwall

What do you mean? I don't get it.