diesel engine price

[cat320]

So how high will you go for a diesel and in what truck would put it into if the cost just got to far out of site?

[BreyerConstruct]

Sometimes for the price of a new gasser, you can get a used diesel in good shape.

My .02

~Matt

[hlntoiz]

At this point I would only put it in a bigger truck for the power, torque and to serve a purpose. I don't see desiel prices ever being cheeper than gas ever again.

George Bush and his buddies are really sticking it to the contractors of the US. If the public only realized that the desiel prices affect you deeper in the pocket (ie. trucking, shipping, manufacturing, etc.) than in the short run (at the pump to fill your mini van or sedan) than this wouldn't even be a question!

But until then Desiel boys are going to take it in the A$$!

[BreyerConstruct]

George Bush and his buddies are really sticking it to the contractors of the US. If the public only realized that the desiel prices affect you deeper in the pocket (ie. trucking, shipping, manufacturing, etc.) than in the short run (at the pump to fill your mini van or sedan) than this wouldn't even be a question!

But until then Desiel boys are going to take it in the A$$!

I'm not sure where the prez fits into this- I was under the impression this was simply supply & demand in action here. ...Unless you're talking about the taxes on fuel. Of which I'm not sure of the exact ammounts, just that Iwish they were lower! LOL:burnout

~Matt

[JD PLOWER]

The gooberment is going about this in the wrong way. What they could and probably should do is mandate mileage before mandating cleaner air. If the law was that all trucks up to say 12000gvw had to average 20mpg (city and highway) then diesel would actually get more popular but it would also end these horsepower wars that sell so many new trucks today. Eventually the amount of fuel vehicles use will be more important then what type of fuel and I think that day is coming a lot faster then we might realize.

I would purchase a used diesel again if the price was right and all other factors being somewhat equal like the cost of fuel. I will never pay 7-8K for any engine in a pickup or small dump, Cummins, Cat, International or Mercedes, not gonna happen!

[Snowboy]

speaking of govement and clean air and Diesel.

I asked one of the truckers at work who drops off our wood moldings they are from Quebec and i guess they go all over Canada and the US. I asked the driver why he has a propane tank on the side of his truck behind the cab. I thought maybe there is a propane stove in three or something. The driver told me no its a bunker heater. I was like oh cool. He says yeah I can only use it in Canada in the USA its outlawed and illegal. I have to run my truck all night long and i think he said he can burn 5 to 10 gallons of diesel per hour to keep the truck warm in winter. I thought was rather stupid that he cant use the propane in the US.

Apparently most new rigs come with a extra diesels engine just to keep the truck and tranny and engine warm. He said it costs allot to add to a new truck but most dealers are just ordering it anyhow and selling the trucks with this new feature. Sounds like a good idea.

Dave.

[Randy Clarke]

My neighbour has 9 rigs, buys a new Kenworth every year. Those combo heating/power units are about a $10,000cdn. option if I heard him right. Old school thinking was your no money ahead if you put that money into fuel and engine wear plus the power unit needs maintenance also. The units keep everything warm etc. I'm seeing more truckstops with no idle rules except for cool down time.

[GMC Driver]

I have kind of regretted not buying a diesel last year when I replaced my own truck, now that I have nearly 25,000 miles on it, and I will have had it a year next month. At that time, the D-max & Allison was a $9500 Cdn option. If the cost of these is going to rise the 30% like they say, I am not so sure the next one will be a diesel either. There is no doubt to me the added benefit of the diesel powerplant, but at an expected cost of $12,000? Seems a little rich to me - guess that's my heritage coming through, but at what point does it stop making sense to buy diesel? Unless you can be guarenteed the resale will also be adjusted accordingly, I would be seriously cautious about buying a diesel after 2007, never mind the reliability concerns that all the new regulations bring about.

[apgarconstruction]

At this point I would only put it in a bigger truck for the power, torque and to serve a purpose. I don't see desiel prices ever being cheeper than gas ever again.

George Bush and his buddies are really sticking it to the contractors of the US. If the public only realized that the desiel prices affect you deeper in the pocket (ie. trucking, shipping, manufacturing, etc.) than in the short run (at the pump to fill your mini van or sedan) than this wouldn't even be a question!

But until then Desiel boys are going to take it in the A$$!

State and the feds make the fuel taxes, and i don't think the president is dictating what those fed taxes should be. it's the senators and congressmen.
the oil companies are the ones jacking the prices up, the fuel taxes haven't gone up all that much. it's the cost of barrels from the arabs. opec is to blame if anyone. when exxon/mobil is posting 30-40 billion in one quarter profit omg that has nothing to do with the government.

now,
I'm willing to spend the coin for the diesel, unless it's going to be surcharged for 07 and possibly cost 8000 or more to upgrade.
I'm all about monthly costs and keeping them low. so paying something upfront, that is a one time expense. but paying for huge gas bills each month is not what i want to do. they are high enough already. i can't image having a truck that gest half the mileage mine does now. diesel is just about even with reg unleaded now, and i get 16-18 mpg. try that with a gasser.
I can also sell me truck now, for several thousand more than someone with the same truck but with a gas motor. because that motor would be on it's way out, where mine has plenty of life left in it.
they are worth it, whether you keep the truck forever or sell it in 5 years.

[Pickering Snow]

My neighbour has 9 rigs, buys a new Kenworth every year. Those combo heating/power units are about a $10,000cdn. option if I heard him right. Old school thinking was your no money ahead if you put that money into fuel and engine wear plus the power unit needs maintenance also. The units keep everything warm etc. I'm seeing more truckstops with no idle rules except for cool down time.


Randy

Schnider National has ran these systems for years like at leat 93 that i can remember there rigs wont idle after 15 mins and they have the heater power combo units . they also have a 10 on 6 off run time computer all of this to help extend the life of the tractor

[hlntoiz]

State and the feds make the fuel taxes, and i don't think the president is dictating what those fed taxes should be. it's the senators and congressmen.
the oil companies are the ones jacking the prices up, the fuel taxes haven't gone up all that much. it's the cost of barrels from the arabs. opec is to blame if anyone. when exxon/mobil is posting 30-40 billion in one quarter profit omg that has nothing to do with the government.


Exactly, President Bush is well endowed in the oil business. He owns a few wells him self and is pretty good friends with those Exxon/mobil guys. The war was a huge excuse to raise the price per barrell. most of our oil doesn't even come from the Iraq. Each state has to have taxes to repair roads and take care of them. It is the initial cost of the gallon of desiel that is way out of wack! :soapbox Just my opinion!

[T-Zab]

Exactly, President Bush is well endowed in the oil business. He owns a few wells him self and is pretty good friends with those Exxon/mobil guys. The war was a huge excuse to raise the price per barrell. most of our oil doesn't even come from the Iraq. Each state has to have taxes to repair roads and take care of them. It is the initial cost of the gallon of desiel that is way out of wack! :soapbox Just my opinion!


Easy Boy Easy, not to rain on anyones parade but Chuck strickly forbids political discussions on this site. Lets keep George out of this one eh.
Thanks
Todd

P.s. I voted for George and I am biting my tongue here :D

[hlntoiz]

Sorry! I just get a little frustrated sometimes!:notworthy

[Alan]

Sorry! I just get a little frustrated sometimes!:notworthy We all do sometimes, but that's no excuse ot try to make a political comment on everything,, especially HERE! I'd hate to have to pull posts but I can live with myself if I have to do it.

[BrockwayMT]

I was at the Chevy dealer yesterday and he said $6000 more. I said "So $12000 more for a Dmax?" and he said "yes." They way I see it even at $3 you can still buy 1000 tanks of gas for 12 g's. I think diesels cost too much now at $5-6 k. Over $10k is just insane in my opinion. The price of replacing the dpf's down the road on the new diesels is a major concern as well. They could cost $1000 and it won't run right and won't pass inspection without it.

In the case of the GM truck, I have heard rumors that the 8.1 is gone soon. If that's the case I guess you either tow with the 6.0 and deal with it or else pay out your ear.

[ratlover]

As much as I dont like the price of fuel you know what Europe has been paying for YEARS?

Weres the option, I'd buy a diesel becasue its cool, the chicks dig it and I like my 7k# smoke blowing hotrod :D

[Snowboy]

I'd buy a diesel becasue its cool, the chicks dig it.

That’s reason alone to buy one.

Dave.

[skennedy]

As much as I dont like the price of fuel you know what Europe has been paying for YEARS?

Weres the option, I'd buy a diesel becasue its cool, the chicks dig it and I like my 7k# smoke blowing hotrod :D
As well as Australia......Was talking to my brother yesterday and he just payed what worked out to be over $4.20 a gallon.
In Australia now just about every SUV that you can buy has the option as a deisel as well......very popular.

[Joey D]

gas and diesel price is driven off the stock market more so than the oil companys.