Heres one For you

[Classic Lawn]

I had a bad run in with a Blizzard Dealer and it just got worse. It was putting on my timbren kit and had to raze the front crose member and the part of the plow mout that is mounted to the truck was loss. what a joke. i titened all of the bolts down but how do i know that the rest of the plow is alright i sure as hell not taking back to the guys who put it on
:feedback :headwall :headwall

[4evergreenlawns]

Seems like you answered your own Q. Take a wrench to each and every nut and bolt.

[wyldman]

The bolts may loosen up on their own,it's normal.The fault of the dealer was not tell you to retorque them after the first use,and to check them periodically.

[Pickering Snow]

Iam pretty sure i can figure were you had that installed here in Mich :D .

One thing on the push plate bolts and nuts make sure they used grade 8 quailty bolts Jerre rarly uses the Blizzard hardware pack another tip is use nylon locknuts instead of lock washers and reg nuts i have never had to retighten my push plates. On the plates to frame like Chris said because of the nut rod set up it will be ness to check all 6 of those from time to time.


On the plow pull your cover check for hose routing and make sure valve coil nuts are tight , check your grounds and power feed under the cover has well.

Imortant tip spray down the entire manifold area with fliud film or equal to all electrical and fittings makes short work of repairs down the road.

[Classic Lawn]

Seems like you answered your own Q. Take a wrench to each and every nut and bolt.
Thats not my point. You pay 5,000 on a plow and expect it to be done right and not have to be going through this. i should not have to go through the plow when it hasnt even been used yet its went from the dealer to my garage an that s it.

[4evergreenlawns]

I am so sorry.:greenange You are correct, however, you have managed to post all your troubles on more then one site and more than several people replied with advice.

Now you have more trouble (:help) and you get advice, but not the advice you want you hear. There is a story about a boy and a wolf...... anyway


:beatsme Maybe I should have asked: "What exactly would you like us to do about it?"

I guess I could jump in my truck come out there and do the work for you and send a bill to the dealer that did the install.

You could drive your truck to Erie, PA and get Jerre to look it over.

Fred, could stop by and give you a hand.

Maybe you would like some of us to plow you account to just incase you continue you have issue with what you already know is a sub-par install.

Which should it be???

If you want help biting the hand that is feeding might not be a great way to go.


Oh now for the Feedback you asked for. "DO NOT BUY ANOTHER PLOW FROM THE GUYS THAT DID THE INSTALL" for all of out sake please!

:soapbox :soapbox :soapbox :soapbox :soapbox :soapbox :soapbox

[Classic Lawn]

I am just trying to figuer out what to do i have never owned a plow before and dont realy know how to handle it never had this much trubale with a peace of equipment that i have bought it just seems like every time i turn around with this plow there is a new problem i titen down all the bolts but i dont know if they are tite enough. with all these problems i dont know what else to look for and all iam worried about is going out and plowing the frist snow fall and the plow falling off.

[Randy Clarke]

You should have received the installation manual with the plow documents. If not got to the Blizzard site and print off an installation manual. Take your time and you will find all the info, torque's etc. Do it yourself and your good to go.
Then you will know it's safe.

[Jerre Heyer]

Thanks Ron, and I didn't even have to post earlier. Jerre
:funnypost

[John DiMartino]

Classic, like Ron said,get under the truck and tighten everything. I got under mine after i got afew hours on my 810.I didnt find any bolts loose on mine,but it can and does happen,and it is normal for them to loosen a bit .In the future ,Id recommend a real nice guy in Erie ,Pa named Jerre Heyer,for all your blizzard needs.

[Plow Babe]

another tip is use nylon locknuts instead of lock washers and reg nuts.

This is all we use. If the item doesn't come with them, we ask for them, or change them out ourselves. Pennies at the hardware store.

If you are choosing to be in the snow removal business, you will have to get used to problems, equipment breakdowns, frustrations, etc. It comes with the territory. Learn from mistakes and move on. We have had bad dealer experiences too. Go somewhere else, or get in the shop and on LTS and figure out how things work and fix it yourself. Steve is now a self-taught welder, mechanic, troubleshooter, etc. Be patient and give yourself a chance.:)

[Mark Oomkes]

I didn't keep up to date on the other thread, but did you talk to the dealer? Or the owner of the dealership?

You are correct, you shouldn't have to put up with it, but it doesn't happen. I can top your problems quite easily. Last year after paying $40K + for a truck, I should be able to get more than 500 miles out of the tranny, but I didn't. I bitched to the dealership and to Ford, didn't get me anywhere. I paid $2K for a tranny rebuild on it this fall so I don't have to depend on the crappy Ford parts installed in it. Being that the dealer is smaller than FoMoCo, I am guessing you would probably be able to get somewhere with them by telling them about the crappy job they did. If they don't care, don't buy from them again.

[wyldman]

The nylon lock nuts work OK,but they can be easily damaged by using an impact gun.They also do not work well after they have been removed,as the nylon is now broken.

Use grade 8 locknuts.They are all steel,and have a punched area that locks the nut in place.Beware though,they lock so well it's hard to get them tight by hand.An impact gun is usually neccesary.

[CraftyBigDog]

I just ordered a case of this Im gonna try it out for a prevenative against rust!

https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/amh.aspx

[Joey D]

I use that amsoil stuff on everything. It works but can stain your paint if you get any on and don't clean it off

[Classic Lawn]

Thanks for all the in put. Would you guys sugest useing a tork rench on the bolts.

The next plow i get i will be going to see Jerre

[Pickering Snow]

Classic just tighten everything real good unless you suffer from arthritist you will be fine.

PS why dont you list your location in Mich if you get in trouble i may not be that far from you. Til you get the bugs worked out iam picking up a spare 8611Lp and if you got in a jamb for service you could borrow a 810 let me know.

[CraftyBigDog]

Pickering Snow I think that is awesome to look out for him like that!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Crash935]

Not to hijack but,

Hey chris, just noticed you now carry blizzard, western, fisher. and downeastern, Where do you find the time??

[wyldman]

Not to hijack but,

Hey chris, just noticed you now carry blizzard, western, fisher. and downeastern, Where do you find the time??

Going to focus more on plow and equipment sales,and scale down the snow removal business.It's just too hectic and stressful.

I will still plow some snow,but mostly just for fun and testing out some new products.I have some new stuff in the works. :D

[SMSofMI]

:funnypost you have white dodge with the 810 my buddy told me youy came to him for a price on the 810 but you never came back and i have bought three from the fella a young guy what knows his stuff and am very happy with his service he is there 24 hrs during snow man it is awesome i guess im trying to say you shouldnt of price shopped or whatever you did you should of went with the rite dealer well im sorry about your luck i would be on the hoot with blizzard with all your problems not the .com's if you need help contact my boy @ PRO-MOWER & SNOW EQUIPMENT

[4evergreenlawns]

As I am reading this out of the blue I started humming,

"It's a small world after all, it's a small, small world". :nodd :rolling

[Alan]

As I am reading this out of the blue I started humming,

"It's a small world after all, it's a small, small world". :nodd :rolling

A bunch of us were just discussing your post over in chat,,,and your point is?

[4evergreenlawns]

Alan,

The point being. Here is a guy )Classic) just complaining to no end about how lousy the install on his Blizzard was completed and how how lousy it was handled by the dealer.

Then comes along another guy (SMS) who knows the guy (Classic) doing all the winning and pretty much sums it up as you pay less you get less.

Now not that you should tolerate a lousy install but if you knew you were paying the lowest price possible and the other guy does it for a little more but does the job right, that you get what you pay for.

Therefore, "It's a small world" in that the guy got caught pinching pennies and now wanting everybody to feel bad for him.

This is no different than the following Jerre's has deveploed in that people are driving for days to get the job done at Jerre's. If you want something of quaility you should be willing to do you homework and get what you want.

Hope that clears it up.

[Classic Lawn]

Alan,

The point being. Here is a guy )Classic) just complaining to no end about how lousy the install on his Blizzard was completed and how how lousy it was handled by the dealer.

Then comes along another guy (SMS) who knows the guy (Classic) doing all the winning and pretty much sums it up as you pay less you get less.

Now not that you should tolerate a lousy install but if you knew you were paying the lowest price possible and the other guy does it for a little more but does the job right, that you get what you pay for.

Therefore, "It's a small world" in that the guy got caught pinching pennies and now wanting everybody to feel bad for him.

This is no different than the following Jerre's has deveploed in that people are driving for days to get the job done at Jerre's. If you want something of quaility you should be willing to do you homework and get what you want.

Hope that clears it up.


I didnt do any price shoping the price i paid for my plow was the same as the one the guy at pro mower gave me i went with location. the guy where i bought my plow talked about the same stuff the guy at pro-mower did how am i suppose to know that they were going to send the truck to a body shop to have the plow put on. I was not trying to pinch pennies either if i was trying to do that i would have bought something used. wasnt looking for anyone to feel sorry for me just trying to get some input on what to do cause my mower dealer is great they back the product they sell.

I dont see the point of you going around being an a** to people that are asking for in-put on how to get things taken care of thats what i thought this site was for is for sharing information.

[Classic Lawn]

Classic just tighten everything real good unless you suffer from arthritist you will be fine.

PS why dont you list your location in Mich if you get in trouble i may not be that far from you. Til you get the bugs worked out iam picking up a spare 8611Lp and if you got in a jamb for service you could borrow a 810 let me know.

Fred

I dont know if i ever thanked you for your offer so thank you. Got to use the plow twice i love it might be getting anouther one soon. again thanks

Jeremy

[4evergreenlawns]

Seems to me at the start of this thread there was lots of information shared how you take it is up to you.

Enough said I am done here.

[Joey D]

Just because you pay more does not = you received more. I have seen hack jobs from the best plow installers in my area. Hand tight bolts, loose bumpers, missing hardware and leaks.

[Robo]

IMO price is irrelevant of the amount of "quality" put into a job. You pay X amount of money for a plow irregardless of what brand at the very least it should be installed properly PERIOD!!

Good luck with your new plow and as others said give every nut and bolt the once over making sure they are tight etc. Blizzard IMO is past their growing pains now and making perhaps the best snowplows made today. Makes me wish I had one:nodd

[Classic Lawn]

IMO price is irrelevant of the amount of "quality" put into a job. You pay X amount of money for a plow irregardless of what brand at the very least it should be installed properly PERIOD!!

Good luck with your new plow and as others said give every nut and bolt the once over making sure they are tight etc. Blizzard IMO is past their growing pains now and making perhaps the best snowplows made today. Makes me wish I had one:nodd


I like the plow the last snow we had about 4-6'' the plow was great. just need to get a snow deflector. i didnt have a problem checking all the nuts and blots, adjesting the pump and trip springs but like u said you pay x amount of money for a plow and it should be done right. and there was not price comparison in either place i want so i went to the place that had the plow in stock and was the closest. and both dealers seemed very nolagable of the plow. but i was wrong. but if u are selling product u should stand behind it.

My buddy just had a plow installed and ran into some problems the plow was instaled and the dealer went to start the rig and it would not start. and it ended up coasting him a lot more money and it was the dealers falt that the rig didnt start.

I feel that the Blizzard plow is great but i think blizzard needs to look at some of thier dealers. and see if they are doing a good job on promoting their product and backing the product b/c the dealer is what makes the name for the company.

[Crash935]

I feel that the Blizzard plow is great but i think blizzard needs to look at some of thier dealers. and see if they are doing a good job on promoting their product and backing the product b/c the dealer is what makes the name for the company

This will change now that douglas dynamics has ownership of blizzard, just give them some time to get things sorted out.

[4evergreenlawns]

Blizzard Corporation could CARELESS about how you are getting treated as long as they are getting paid. They designed a GREAT product, than went to market with very limited distrabution, keeping the price and demand high. Than when you did not get the plow if you really wanted one you had to plan for an early delivery the following year driving orders up. If a dealer treated you like an arse and you called them to tell them about all they tell you is, you are lucky to have found another dealer that had the plow in stock.

This was my personal experience last season when I paid a cash deposit of $5,000.00 for two 810's in mid Septmeber only to find out from Blizzard directly in late October the dealer NEVER paid for the order he made and the plows went to someone else and there were NO MORE 810 to be had at the factory. I found a dealer with two 810's in stock and was truly lucky enough to get them installed in the same week.

I called Nels and told him what happen the the conversation literally ended on, "Just know how lucky you were to find a dealer that still had 810's in stock in mid November. Good luck with you new Blizzard plows" end of story.

I did not come to the .com to blow snot all over people at nauseum.

So again, BLIZZARD DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YOUR PROBLEMS OR HOW CRAPY THE INSTALLER IS, OR HOW BAD THE INSTALLER MESSED UP YOUR RIG.

Enjoy your plow. Make lots of money and move on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!